Posted on 03/13/2023 5:18:24 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
Former President Trump on Monday claimed former Vice President Mike Pence was responsible for the violence on Jan. 6, 2021, two days after Pence took aim at his old boss for his conduct around the riots at the Capitol that day.
Trump, speaking to a group of reporters aboard his personal plane en route to a campaign event in Iowa, responded to comments Pence made at the annual Gridiron Dinner in Washington, D.C., in which the former vice president said “history will hold Donald Trump accountable” for the events of Jan. 6.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
“Had he sent the votes back to the legislatures, they wouldn’t have had a problem with Jan. 6, so in many ways you can blame him for Jan. 6,” Trump said, according to The Washington Post. “Had he sent them back to Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, the states, I believe, No. 1, you have had a different outcome. But I also believe you wouldn’t have had ‘Jan. 6’ as we call it.”
Exactly right and totally opposite of what Pence claims Trump asked him to do.
One is lying the other is not. MAGA!
How about staying with the record of his Presidency which was the best record over all before him and the demented buffoon usurper who we have now.
I have family members who are the opposite of me, and that means nothing.
I am sure you have relatives that are capable of reasoned thought.
Contrary to common consensus, wealthy men didn't get that way by taking that wealth from their fellow man. Untold hundreds of thousands (millions?) of individuals should thank President Trump for their employment and even their existence through his enterprise and productivity.
Pence is Deep State and a Fake Conservative.
He does not an even a slim chance of being President.
Maybe he is gunning to be DeSantis’ VP.
What Violence?
You mean the shooting murder of Ashli Babbett, the beating death of Roseanne Boyland by the police?
I have been called a lot of things, but this is first time I have been called a "Marxist Communist", if you knew me you would know why this is hillarious.
This is what bothers me about Trump, he is a "cult of personality" and the last couple of comments to my post prove it.
No attempt to refute any of my points, only ad-hominem attacks driven by emotion.
Honestly, Trump's wealth is probably the best thing he has going for him, he doesn't need money so he can't be bribed.
But these unprovoked attacks on DeSantis are childish and irrational, we need all of the help we can get, and if Trump really cared about the country instead of himself, he would be busy building a team of patriots to take over once his second term was up, instead of throwing a temper tantrum over someone who found a way to cleanup the electoral swamp in the very state Trump calls home.
Some of you keep claiming that, but nowhere have you laid out where in the Constitution, law, etc. such a mechanism/process exists or existed. And the reason for that is because it does not and never existed. It is completely made up. The Vice President has absolutely no power, authority, or role to do what you suggest. Period. Even if theoretically he got a motion to make such a ruling as the presiding officer, it could have easily been overruled by an appeal of the chair’s ruling.
And moreover, to borrow this from another FReeper:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4133096/posts#3
The “election” alleged to be fraudulent has no Constitutional existence. The 50 State Legislatures which appoint 535 Electors (and Congress, which appoints 3) have all adopted the custom of having people voting as the means by which the appointments are normally made, but this creates 51 elections, not one.
Those 51 elections occur at the direction of, and are subservient to, 50 legislatures and Congress. The States unwisely granted Congress 3 Electors by ratifying the XXIII Amendment in 1960, so Congress does have supervisory power OVER THOSE THREE, but not otherwise.
There is only one Presidential election in the Constitution, it takes place in December, there are 538 voters, and in December 2020 Biden got 306 of them and was elected President.
No State Legislature objected that its Electors were not the ones they had appointed. No State Legislature even convened to consider the matter. In the case of Pennsylvania, the Legislature fled to avoid considering the matter.
It has never been alleged that a single one of the 306 votes for Biden/Harris was a forgery, that the Electors who casted them were impersonating someone else, or that the Legislatures had secretly appointed other Electors.
There is zero space for an allegation of fraud in the Constitutional Presidential election of December 14, 2020.
As far as the 51 elections which occurred on November 3, 2020, they may very well have been rife with fraud, but since the appointment power of the 50 State Legislatures (535) and Congress (3) is plenary, that’s a problem for those legislatures to deal with should they choose to do so.
Thank Trump for our very "existence"?
Have you elevated him to the level of deity?
Just think, if Phil Donahue never had that extramarital affair, Mike Pence would not have existed to be chosen for VP.
(Just a joke, in case anyone sleepy at 4 am might see it and take it seriously)
It doesn’t make a lot of sense, does it?
But you never answered my question. If the VP never had authority to challenge the election, why did they pass a law prohibiting the VP from challenging future elections?
I’ll give you a clue. It’s because they were sure the VP did have that authority.
>> Everyone else [but Trump] has actually won elections. He’s jealous.
Trump won in 2016. Do you dispute that?
Trump won again in 2020. You’re jealous (and running a bit scared too...)
>> Untold hundreds of thousands (millions?) of individuals should thank President Trump for... their existence
Give it a few post-Roe V Wade repeal years, and that will be obviously true.
“You are as childish as Trump.”
I know. Trump is so childish, we should never entrust him to the highest office in the land. How would he deal with foreign leaders? He’s liable to get us into a nuclear war. Oh wait. Never mind.
Are you saying that DeSantis is employing a feint?
The Deep State, Globalists, and Democrats are aligned with American Marxists who are trying to destroy our current system. Are you saying DeSantis is allied with that team?
BTW, I am a full-on Trump supporter. I just don't think spreading lies about the people on our side who might run against Trump is helpful.
Yes. It is.
DESANTIS SMOKE SCREEN. He’s a deep Stater, just look who is funneling the money to him.
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