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Fears of Sanders win growing among Democratic establishment
Associated Press ^ | January 8, 2020 | Steve Peoples and Alexandra Jaffe

Posted on 01/08/2020 6:17:44 AM PST by Olog-hai

Increasingly alarmed that Bernie Sanders could become their party’s presidential nominee, establishment-minded Democrats are warning primary voters that the self-described democratic socialist would struggle to defeat President Donald Trump and hurt the party’s chances in premier House, Senate and governors’ races.

The urgent warnings come as Sanders shows new signs of strength on the ground in the first two states on the presidential primary calendar, Iowa and New Hampshire, backed by a dominant fundraising operation.

The Vermont senator has largely escaped close scrutiny over the last year as his rivals doubted the quirky 78-year-old’s ability to win the nomination. But less than a month before Iowa’s kickoff caucuses, the doubters are being forced to take Sanders seriously. […]

The increasingly vocal concerns are coming from a number of political veterans tied to the Obama administration and the 2020 field’s moderate wing, including those backing former Vice President Joe Biden, former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg and Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet. …

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020; alexandrajaffe; associatedpress; berniesanders; crazybernie; fakenews; sanders; stevepeoples; vermont
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1 posted on 01/08/2020 6:17:44 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

NO dem is going to win. But the rise of Bernie is an opportunity for the left to see how their unpreferred candidates will be shanked...a learning experience nearly all of them will predictably miss.


2 posted on 01/08/2020 6:20:08 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: Olog-hai

Hey, at least it would give the American people a clear choice between two guys who don’t pretend to be anything other than who they actually are.


3 posted on 01/08/2020 6:21:15 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Olog-hai

The DNC picks the winner, not the voters. The DNC took the issue to federal courts in 2016, where the courts ruled in favor of the DNC holding the ultimate right to choose the candidate for the general election. So why waste all the time and money for nonsense theater?


4 posted on 01/08/2020 6:22:34 AM PST by blackdog (Making wine cave appearances upon request.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I actually think Sanders is their stronger candidate.
Never underestimate the appeal of “free stuff”!


5 posted on 01/08/2020 6:23:06 AM PST by Reily
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To: Olog-hai

Good.
What they need to do is have ANOTHER Super delegate/ Brokered convention fiasco. Deprive Bernie of the nomination.

And then have those dienfranchised Bernie supporters, et al (30-40%). Split from the Dems permanently and start their own party.


6 posted on 01/08/2020 6:24:17 AM PST by uranium penguin
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To: Olog-hai

Bernie isn’t even a Democrat.


7 posted on 01/08/2020 6:24:37 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Hey, at least it would give the American people a clear choice between two guys who don’t pretend to be anything other than who they actually are.

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Unless a democrat (or a supposed moderate liberal, heh) decides to run as an independent.

Conceivably, that would be even better for Trump, as it would splinter off democrat votes, but if the independent is moderate/centrist enough, might get some away from Trump too. Biden is not much of a threat to do that, even though the media loves to call him a moderate. Bloomberg could though. He has the money to push that narrative


8 posted on 01/08/2020 6:24:38 AM PST by z3n
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To: Olog-hai

The new queen of Ireland may dispatch her royal guards to snuff out the old Bern.


9 posted on 01/08/2020 6:25:13 AM PST by blackdog (Making wine cave appearances upon request.)
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To: Reily

If that appeal was so strong, then Hillary would be president. Was Trump offering “free stuff”?


10 posted on 01/08/2020 6:27:22 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: blackdog
-- So why waste all the time and money for nonsense theater? --

Voting is a sham on the public, in general. At the presidential level, all viable candidates are acceptable to the globalists, all are crooked. This has been the paradigm until Trump appeared and was able to gin up public support, in large part due to his pre-existing celebrity, and also on account of his personal wealth.

The political parties generally block anti-globalists, so the public nevers gets to elect an anti-globalist.

11 posted on 01/08/2020 6:28:39 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Reily

I strongly disagree. The Medicare for All platform, which means taking away generous employer health insurance from tens of millions of voters, would be an anchor around the necks of Democrats.


12 posted on 01/08/2020 6:29:37 AM PST by bort
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To: uranium penguin

And their new party could pick up and dust off that old hammer and sickle icon


13 posted on 01/08/2020 6:29:39 AM PST by Spruce
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To: blackdog

I agree with your assessment.

I do not believe any of the current campaigners will be the nominee. None has the charisma required to win the Presidency.

I think Bloomberg might be the DNC favored guy. Bloomberg is where all the others are nots. My original thought was Hillary but No longer think that is possible.


14 posted on 01/08/2020 6:31:23 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Olog-hai

Bernie has a practically fixed number of supporters. When elections roll around, he’s quick to pick them up and make a respectable showing in polls - but doesn’t garner any more support than that. The number is enough to challenge competitors, but not enough to win outright.

If Bernie is rising/leading in polls, I suspect it’s because those not supporting are not answering the poll - out of dismay for the alternatives. Bernie’s true believers are solidly behind him. Those who aren’t have a choice of ... Biden? Warren? Buttedgeedge? ugh. Maybe non-Bernie Dems are just quietly sitting this one out.


15 posted on 01/08/2020 6:32:13 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Democrats oppose democracy.)
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To: Olog-hai

Fears?
They should be dancing for joy!......................


16 posted on 01/08/2020 6:32:33 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.......... ..)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

They learned that lesson with Sanders 2016. By all rights Sanders should have been the DNC nominee last time.

He’s not going to be the nominee this time precisely because he showed that when it matters he will not stand up to the election-riggers.


17 posted on 01/08/2020 6:32:43 AM PST by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: ctdonath2

In a Democrat world, Iraq just got free stuff from Iran.


18 posted on 01/08/2020 6:35:24 AM PST by blackdog (Making wine cave appearances upon request.)
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To: Olog-hai

I am an IA conservative. Thinking I should maybe go to the Dem caucus to vote for the Bern. Would love to see PDJT debate this a$$hate.


19 posted on 01/08/2020 6:35:54 AM PST by IAGeezer912 (One out of every 20 people on the face of the earth are Americans. We have won life's lottery.)
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To: Olog-hai
I actually "crossed over" and voted for Bernie in our state's Dem primary in 2016.

That way I was able to vote against Hillary twice--once in the primary and once in the general.

For me, Bernie is preferable in the general elections.

He is not an establishment kind of guy, so he doesn't have the Dem media and cheating machine on his side.

Bernie's real intentions are more transparent than the other Dem candidates. At least people know what they are getting and can make a real choice.

20 posted on 01/08/2020 6:35:59 AM PST by Jess Kitting
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