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Air Force cancels $24 million refrigerators for Air Force One......
.washingtonexaminer ^ | 6/4/2018 | Travis J. Tritten

Posted on 06/04/2018 4:01:06 PM PDT by caww

The service AND 'the White House' came to the conclusion that nixing the new units to cool food on the jet makes “prudent fiscal sense,” Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson wrote in a letter to Rep. Joe Courtney, D-Conn., who sits on the Armed Services Committee.

Even with the understanding that the Air Force One mission brings with it unique requirements and challenges, a $24 million sole-source contract just didn’t pass the smell test.”....“Clearly, the Air Force is making the right decision cancel the previously announced 'sole-source contract' and 'hit restart' on this process,”

Boeing was awarded the contract to replace the aging refrigerators but has been notified of the cancellation, according to Wilson.

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To: SaveFerris
I'd be happy to take over the contract for $15 or $20 million - I'll show up with a truckload of these and some Igloo's, too.

And you'd be rejected and shown the door for showing up with that crap that could never be rendered airworthy. That $24 million probably is excessive ... but there's middle ground between that stupidity and yours.

Yeah, I know. Satire. Just joking. Lighten up, Francis.

Whatever.

61 posted on 06/04/2018 5:25:18 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: jjotto

How much would mil standard GE turbines run (these are not commercial jet type power iirc)? One refrigerator (or several) on one aircraft for 12 million of that 400 MM?

Specs required. Coolant used? compressor mil-spec? Etc.


62 posted on 06/04/2018 5:30:10 PM PDT by John S Mosby (SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS)
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To: John S Mosby

You have to figure they are not normal AC, but are a 400hz system.


63 posted on 06/04/2018 5:30:44 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: caww
Maybe they realized the new wifi system that reorders automatically might be sending more than frozen pizza requests to the local Safeway?

-PJ

64 posted on 06/04/2018 5:33:37 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: OftheOhio

Saying that, how is that even possible, $24 mil. I remember in the 70’s a phantom with some bad ass GE engines was only bringing $3.5 mil.


65 posted on 06/04/2018 5:38:38 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: SaveFerris
Satire. Just joking. Lighten up...

If that don't frost your hot dog...lol...

66 posted on 06/04/2018 5:44:53 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: caww

Can get a jumbo yeti and bags of ice.
Can get yeti equals for half.
That’s how working people roll.


67 posted on 06/04/2018 5:49:31 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorableo)
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To: jjotto

Plenty of “cold” available for free at 35,000 feet ,, a simple heat exchanger arrangement isn’t hard to design or manufacture. A simple arrangement where cold is pulled off the skin of the aircraft with recirculating antifreeze could be easily built similar to the closed systems used on steel hulled diesel boats for engine cooling... IF they didn’t want to run it electrically... and B747’s have plenty of APU power available. The biggest expense I see is probably the disassembly of existing equipment and “build in place” aspect of the job if that is necessary...


68 posted on 06/04/2018 6:23:14 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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To: Flaming Conservative

Better yet, just eat MREs. No fridge required.


69 posted on 06/04/2018 6:27:29 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: canuck_conservative

Whoever submitted the $24 million “bid” should be charged with fraud. That’ll put a stop to excessive overcharging, real quick.
_____________________________

somebody is bummed that they lost a BIG commission.


70 posted on 06/04/2018 6:35:52 PM PDT by BarbM ( President Trump: MAGA and pardon me)
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To: SgtHooper

LOL.


71 posted on 06/04/2018 6:40:59 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: editor-surveyor

Whats an ice maqchine ?


72 posted on 06/04/2018 6:49:20 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: editor-surveyor

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73 posted on 06/04/2018 6:58:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: editor-surveyor

Ya know there are times when it’s senseless to go in circles....if you cannot see the differences between a super market frigeration unit and Airforce one...then it’s a senseless cause continuing this. Just the fact alone one is grounded and the other is airbirne should have rang a bell.


74 posted on 06/04/2018 7:03:53 PM PDT by caww
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To: canuck_conservative

I doubt it. The engineering design team (10 people) has a loaded rate of over 1 million per year. The you have to have special tool to build the prototypes. I would be surprised if it could be done for under 3 million.

As I said, they cannot take a fridge off the shelf and upgrade it, the GVT makes them build from the ground up.

Notice that this was a separate contract which means increased overhead providing design reviews and reports to the GVT. They can’t just build a fridge and deliver it, the GVT will have at least 3 major design reviews. All that overhead costs.


75 posted on 06/04/2018 7:04:45 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Clearly you know how things work. You perfectly describe the pencil whipping I endured.


76 posted on 06/04/2018 7:41:18 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: hadaclueonce

Hillbilly solutions are often the most elegant and practical, lol.


77 posted on 06/04/2018 7:46:45 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: caww

Awwww, some congress critter is out of their kickback.


78 posted on 06/04/2018 8:49:21 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Sheep specs?


79 posted on 06/04/2018 8:56:15 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: caww

If it is going on an aircraft, chances are every part down to the last screw will be designed, inspected, re-inspected X 9, and certified. And it will be designed to survive a crash that kills everyone on board.

It will be like no one had ever built a refrigerator before.

Because that is how it is done in aerospace.


80 posted on 06/04/2018 8:58:13 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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