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In Spain, two rappers heading to prison for “insulting the King”
Hot Air.com ^ | March 19, 2018 | JAZZ SHAW

Posted on 03/19/2018 10:23:41 AM PDT by Kaslin

Lately, whenever we’ve wound up covering stories out of Spain, they’ve been related to the Catalan independence movement. Today, however, the lens swings away from that region and back to Madrid. There was a concert held there recently by various artists including a rap musician named Josep Miquel Arenas, better known as Valtonyc. The show was informally considered a “farewell performance” because, barring success in a last minute appeal, Arenas is heading off to prison for a few years. His crime? He insulted the king, among other things. (WaPo)

The headliner tonight was Josep Miquel Arenas, 24, the artist known as Valtonyc, recently convicted of three crimes: glorifying terrorism, committing serious insult to the monarch and making a threat against a Majorcan politician.

Regarding the last charge, Arenas called Jorge Campos — a prominent leader of a local nationalist group — a fascist, an everyday slur in Spain, and sang that he “deserved a nuclear bomb.”

Campos said he felt his life was in danger.

In his defense, the rapper asked, “Do I look like someone who has access to plutonium?”

This short video montage from the Washington Post will bring you up to date on the singers who have run afoul of the law in this fashion.

This story fits in with a number of other reports out of Europe that we’ve been debating here and it serves as a good reminder of some of the fundamental differences between life in the United States and what’s seen in more “socialist leaning democracies” on the other side of the pond. Just recently we talked about socialism in Norway, so beloved by some liberal columnists. They wear the trappings of democracy and capitalism as long as it suits them, but those are not rights as we know them. They are gifts from the government which can be taken away at any time.

Spain is a different breed, of course, but many of the same lessons still apply. Things have absolutely gotten better since the demise of Francisco Franco and much was made of that nation’s impressive “transition to democracy.” But under the hood, there’s plenty of the old monarchy and even the Second Spanish Republic collecting dust in their laws. The parliamentary government they have now calls most of the shots, but the monarchy is still in the background. The fact that there are not only rules on the books forbidding speech deemed insulting to the monarch but people willing to enforce those rules in 2018, is all you really need to know about Spanish democracy. It’s far more window dressing than substance and their views on fundamental human rights are markedly different than what you’ll find in America.

Should other countries be protesting the imprisonment of these musicians? Probably so, but only on an informal, diplomatic level. Spain remains a sovereign nation and a very old one at that. They have their own issues to settle, including how harshly they will come down on the Catalonians if they continue to press for more independence. When all is said and done, it’s only the people of Spain who can decide how they wish to be ruled and how much freedom they deserve. As Mencken once said, in the end, we all get the government we deserve.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: arrest; freespeech; king; music; prison; rap; socialism; spain
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1 posted on 03/19/2018 10:23:41 AM PDT by Kaslin
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2 posted on 03/19/2018 10:25:01 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (robert mueller is an unguided missile)
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To: Kaslin

Wow. Even more than 30 years after his death, Elvis’s Memphis Mafia still has a long reach...


3 posted on 03/19/2018 10:26:24 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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the king sort of resembles Captain Obvious in a less outlandish costume.


4 posted on 03/19/2018 10:29:29 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Kaslin

Punishing micro-aggressions has always been a royal prerogative, but every Tom, Dick and Harry wants in on it these days.


5 posted on 03/19/2018 10:36:15 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: Kaslin

Cuando en España no insultes al rey.


6 posted on 03/19/2018 10:38:44 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: WayneS

Lol. Thought of Elvis the min I saw the headline.


7 posted on 03/19/2018 10:40:42 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Kaslin

.....demise of Francisco Franco ......

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Still dead I see.


8 posted on 03/19/2018 11:02:41 AM PDT by OSHA (Trans = Gender appropriation.)
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To: OSHA

But his condition is stable.


9 posted on 03/19/2018 11:54:53 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Kaslin

I first went to Spain in 1970 while Franco was still el caudillo. The country was just starting to begin to pull away from the austerity of the regime, but much of the atmosphere was rather bleak. Markers on virtually every road described some battle in the Civil War and wherever Franco had taken a crap.

Nevertheless, there was a theater on the Gran Vía in Madrid showing a drama by a well known Spanish dramatist, Buero Vallejo. It was entitled El sueño de la razón, The Sleep of Reason. Set in the early 19th century and featuring works from Goya’s dark period and the war of independence from France and Napoleon. It was an attack against tyranny and a very thinly disguised diatribe against Franco. That this play was performed in the capital was amazing to me as Franco had previously suppressed such criticism and dissent.

In any event, I suppose the takeaway is that you could get away with political criticism in Spain if it is somewhat subtle or disguised and not blatant.


10 posted on 03/19/2018 11:57:42 AM PDT by DeFault User
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The scumbag rapper wannabe cites U.S. Rappers in his defense. They should be thankful that I’m not king because they would be in jail too.........


11 posted on 03/19/2018 12:00:23 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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We were in Madrid a year or so ago, I noticed a fancy photo of a man and woman on the wall of the hotel lobby, and I turn to my wife and wonder aloud why they’ve hung a portrait of Bashir Al-Assad of all people. A nearby stranger turned to me and suggested I be a bit more discreet, it’s a crime to insult the king...

They could use some 1A over there...


12 posted on 03/19/2018 3:04:37 PM PDT by lowtaxsmallgov (Finally, an Administration that knows how to grow an economy!! MAGA!)
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13 posted on 03/19/2018 4:22:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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That would have happened here if anyuone did it while Zer0 was President


14 posted on 03/19/2018 4:41:06 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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rodeo clown insulted 0


15 posted on 03/19/2018 10:30:26 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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