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Think They’ll Never ‘Come and Take’ Your Guns Without an Armed Revolt? Think Again
Townhall.com ^ | March 12, 2018 | Scott Morefield

Posted on 03/12/2018 6:01:06 AM PDT by Kaslin

The recent gun control debate ignited by last month’s tragedy in Parkland, Florida, has liberals trotting out what has become a favorite Leftist talking point - Australia’s 1996 National Agreement on Firearms, an act which, among other things, severely restricted semi-automatic rifles after after a similarly horrific mass shooting.

Liberals consider the cornerstone of the law, a massive forced gun buyback program, a “common sense” approach to what might otherwise be perceived by gun owners as an unwelcome curtailing of traditional American freedoms. Sure, the government may be forcing gun owners to make the transaction, but exchanging money for items IS capitalism, right? And it sure beats the alternative, a Communist-style door-to-door roundup of weapons that both sides agree would likely lead to civil war.

Don’t get me wrong, I think most true Leftists would LOVE to harness the power of the State to crush liberty-minded gun owners by every means necessary, and if a few of the right eggs are broken in the process, so much the better. But realists on both sides know such a scenario is highly unlikely to happen, at least to a result the Left would want. In all likelihood, open displays of tyrannical force such as openly rounding up certain people groups or door-to-door weapons confiscations are highly likely to result in open displays of resistance, and a civil war that is likely to be fought, and won, by the good guys.

On this matter, right-wing pundits are correct:

On the topic of whether or not citizens could resist “violent tyranny,” Townhall’s Kurt Schlichter writes, “The short answer is, ‘Yes.’ As Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan all teach, a decentralized insurgency with small arms can effectively confront a modern police/military force ... But the bottom line is that two untrained idiots with handguns shut down Boston. What do you think 100 million Americans – many trained and some battle-tested – could do with their rifles?”

“There is no other way around it: The mandatory confiscation of the American citizenry’s guns would involve tens of thousands of heavily armed federal agents going door-to-door to demand of millions of Americans that they surrender their guns. That. Is. Not. Going. To. Happen,” opines National Review’s Mark Wright.

“Make no mistake, armed rebellion would be the consequence,” writes Varad Mehta for The Federalist in a piece that’s par for the course when it comes to most thinking on the right. “Armed men would be dispatched to confiscate guns, they would be met by armed men, and blood would be shed. Australia is a valid example for America only if you are willing for that blood to be spilled in torrents and rivers. To choose Australia is to choose civil war.”

Even the more sane gun control proponents are wise to the political situation. University of Sydney professor Philip Alpers, who is also the founding director of GunPolicy.org, told the New York Times, “What Australia did was a confiscation of private property under the threat of jail time, compensated or not. That wouldn’t wash in the United States.”

Further, when unduly oppressive laws are actually passed in the United States, such as recent laws in New York and Connecticut passed after the Sandy Hook massacre, they are often ignored by the majority of gun owners and sparsely enforced by the states themselves. “New York and Connecticut authorities so far have shown no inclination to enforce their laws by going door to door to round up unregistered guns and arrest their owners,” Mehta wrote in the 2015 piece. “But that’s what would be necessary to enforce the law. A federal law, therefore, would require sweeping, national police action involving thousands of lawmen and affecting tens of millions of people. If proponents of gun control are serious about getting guns out of Americans’ hands, someone will have to take those guns out of Americans’ hands.”

Sure, it’s hard to argue with Mehta’s logic, at least on the surface. And it’s a good thing for gun owners, right?

Not necessarily, not if you look just beneath that surface.

Consider: If rational minds on the Left know all this, to what end are they still pushing for such laws, especially when it’s obvious that they don’t care whether ANY gun control laws are actually enforced. Not yet anyway. (Remember, it’s always conservatives, not liberals, pushing for enforcement of existing law.)

And yet, they do want more and more laws on the books, and the more draconian, obscure, and hard to keep track of, the better. But why?

Here’s the answer, and it should scare every gun owner in the country:

They want to make de facto criminals out of the majority of the gun owning population.

That way, they can essentially pick us off, one by one.

Without necessarily meaning to, Mehta hits on this critical point in his piece: “A national gun buyback law would turn a significant portion of the American people into criminals,” he wrote. “Residents of New York and Connecticut snubbed their new laws … Compliance with the registration requirement has been modest at best, as hundreds of thousands of gun owners in both states refused to register their weapons. So far, then, the laws have been most successful in creating hundreds of thousands of lawbreakers who feel obligated to break the law.”

If liberals are able to pass any sort of “assault weapons” ban, buyback or no buyback, they know they will make criminals out of several million currently law-abiding gun owners. And even if the majority of those gun owners don’t follow the law now, that won’t make them any less a criminal. They just haven’t been caught yet.

But when the ‘right people’ control the levers of power and the ‘right laws’ are all in place, make no mistake - they will be caught.

Here’s the rub. It’s one thing to hold up your rifle and shout “come and take it,” à la Charleton Heston, before thousands of like-minded people. The Feds aren’t going to come to a National Rifle Association convention and start arresting people, at least not yet. And they aren’t going to conduct door-to-door house searches, arresting gun owners and confiscating their firearms, either. Not yet.

But believe me, under the right circumstances and with the right laws in place, the arrests will come. They’ll come when you’re going to work, or to the bank, or to the park with your kids, or a thousand other places. They’ll come after you’ve used your now-illegal AR-15 to defend yourself against a home invader, or if they spot it during a “routine” home search.

Never, ever underestimate these people and the depth of their evil. Remember, the Cheka managed to fill the Soviet gulags to the brim, and yet they did it quietly, with little fuss and even less armed revolt.

And they won’t need to arrest everyone to make the majority obey. No, they only need a few, and word will spread quickly.

So what will you do, dear AR-15 owner, when the ‘Cheka’ comes for your neighbor, and you know the laws are on the books to prosecute? Will a “buyback” and “amnesty” be enough to convince YOU to acquiesce? You’ve got a job, a wife, kids to raise. When they “come and take it,” is your family worth risking?

No, when they take your guns there will be no civil war. There will be no large-scale revolution, because liberals are experts at pushing that Overton Window enough not to shock the system. Like frogs in water that’s about to boil, people won’t jump until it’s too late.

That is why it’s so important to not get complacent and believe a worse case scenario will never happen. That’s why it’s critical to fight the gun controllers’ efforts to change the law at EVERY turn, using EVERY legal means possible.

Long before they “come and take” our guns, and our freedoms.


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To: frog in a pot
The 2018 tax on your least expensive 1911 will $1200.

To which you'll staple the police report of 12/17/2017 showing the LOSS of your weapons in a home burglary while you were out Christmas shopping.

61 posted on 03/12/2018 3:54:35 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: myerson
Unorganized, untrained, 21st Century soft individuals will not have the nerve to rush to get themselves shot to pieces killed.

But...


Unorganized, Trained, 20st Century HARD individuals WILL have the nerve to postion themselves so that OTHERS get shot to pieces and killed.

62 posted on 03/12/2018 3:56:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CottonBall
Crazy 18 YO school shooter wannabe's note to self:

DAMN!

Now I'll have to wait 4 more years until I can take out the BITCH of a teacher that flunked me; along with her WHOLE class; and anyone else that gets in my way.

63 posted on 03/12/2018 3:58:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jim_trent
... NY has a squad that specifically checks death certificates against gun ownership lists and shows up sometimes before the person is buried to confiscate their guns.

REALLY???

I'd like to read about that!

64 posted on 03/12/2018 3:59:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TallahasseeConservative
Gonna be hard to have Law Enforcement confiscate weapons when most of them are NRA members.

Exactly...the pundit class seem to believe that if our political sheep pass some kind of confiscation law, the military and law enforcement will happily go from door-to-door rounding up citizens and their firearms.

I know a LOT of LEO and those I talk with would be in the resistance!

65 posted on 03/12/2018 4:12:08 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Never fear the cow)
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To: Kaslin
somebody shoulda told the NRA that after sandyhook...
66 posted on 03/12/2018 4:25:45 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Elsie

Here is a start. There is a lot more out there.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/14/buffalo-police-search-for-firearms-at-home-after-funerals.html

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/11/robert-farago/another-nypd-gun-confiscation-letter-emerges/

http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/06/new-york-city-confiscating-rifles-and-shotguns/


67 posted on 03/12/2018 4:33:47 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Lurkinanloomin
The military will be divided and will side with the people and the Constitution.
!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I would not count on that.


Me either. I've met military personnel that were devoted Democrats. Trust no one.
68 posted on 03/12/2018 4:34:17 PM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: Kaslin

Bookmark


69 posted on 03/12/2018 4:37:39 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Fitzy_888

DO NOT bet you can have it reduced to a misdemeanor.

You need a good, honest, lawyer (good luck with that), LOTS of money, and LOTS of time to fight anything in court.

In the mean time, you could be offered a ‘simple, cheap, plea bargain’ which will guarantee you no time in jail. In contrast, you can be facing a big bond you may not be able to afford, jail time to risk, who knows what it could be.

It is a fact, daily and for years lots of folks plea bargain their rights away to stay out of jail and with their families so they can support them.

It is not about innocence when you go to court. It is about how wealthy you are, how much money you have, and what you are prepared to risk. AND — if you have a really good attorney (character, knowledge, researches, time to spend on your case).


70 posted on 03/12/2018 5:00:19 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (Deplorable me)
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To: Little Pig

But interestingly enough, it’s the very same gun-grabbers that taught us that we don’t have to obey laws we don’t like.

Immigrations laws don’t have to be obeyed. Laws against vote fraud don’t have to be obeyed. Laws against employing illegal aliens don’t have to be obeyed. What makes them think that gun laws should be obeyed?


71 posted on 03/12/2018 5:18:10 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Elsie

You just clued me in - the libs know they’ve ruined public school so badly with their entitlement and NOT teaching anything important agenda, that they know products of that establishment will be frustrated and be back to seek revenge.

So they want them to cool down for 3 years first

How about just fixing schools back to the 50’s standards? A win-win for everyone (except Alinsky).


72 posted on 03/12/2018 5:18:39 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: jim_trent
"They're quick to say they're going to take the guns," said Tom King, president of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association. "But they don't tell you the law doesn't apply to long guns, or that these families can sell [their loved one's] pistol or apply to keep it."

Guns?

What guns??

Did you guys know Grampa had GUNS???

73 posted on 03/12/2018 6:17:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jim_trent
“It appears you are in possession of a rifle and/or Shotgun (listed below) that has an ammunition feeding device capable of holding more than five (5) rounds of ammunition. Rifles and shotguns capable of holding more than five (5) rounds of ammunition are unlawful to possess in New York City, as per NYC Administrative Code 10-306 (b).”

Oh Officer!!

I'm SO glad you showed up!!

Our guns were stolen last night while we were out.

Can you help up with the insurance papers?

74 posted on 03/12/2018 6:21:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CottonBall
You just clued me in - the libs know they’ve ruined public school so badly with their entitlement and NOT teaching anything important agenda, that they know products of that establishment will be frustrated and be back to seek revenge.

We were 'clued' LONG ago...

 

The SchoolMaster 

 

 

Mr. Griswald walked up to the wagon and introduced himself.  I introduced myself, as well as Mark and Billy Davis, Mark’s friend.  “These children are twelve minutes late for class.”  Mr. Griswald looked at his pocket watch to enforce his statement.  I tried to explain how a Western school operated.  Many families didn’t have time pieces, so the children had to judge their pace by the bell.  “They’ll be no bell for my classroom.  Punctuality is the responsible of the individual.” His expression was firm.

“I see,” I stated.  But I wasn’t so sure he saw.  “Well fellas, you better hustle!”  I gave Mark a pat on the back and helped him down off the wagon.  Then I helped Billy down.  He accidently hit my rifle and it fell off the wagon.  Billy immediately apologized for his clumsiness. 

Naturally, my boy Mark bent over to pick it up and hand it to me.  “Don’t touch that!” Mr. Griswald suddenly shouted.

Mark’s hand froze.  “But it’s not-“ he started as he once again bent to pick it up.

“I said don’t touch it!” Mr. Griswald ordered gruffly.

I stared at Mr. Griswald, not quite believing that he was talking to my son like that – especially when I was still standing right there!  I didn’t much appreciate it either.  “But it’s not good for a gun to stay in the dirt,” Mark tried to explain calmly.

But Mr. Griswald was anything but calm!  He was acting like Mark had just threatened to burn the school down or something!  “Take your places in the schoolroom…immediately!” he ordered Mark and Billy.

Hello?  Didn’t he see me, the father, sitting right there in the wagon?  Didn’t he think I was capable of disciplining my own child?   But Mark said nothing.  He nodded, gave me one last look, then hurried into the classroom.

Mr. Griswald bent over and picked up my rifle.  He held it out to me and asked, “Is this gun loaded, Mr. McCain?”

Now I ask, what good is an unloaded gun?  “Certainly,” I answered as I took my gun from him and sat it securely on my lap.

“In the name of sanity, how can you place a loaded weapon within easy reach of children?” 

I remained calm knowing he was from back east and not used to the western culture’s way of life.  “Your points well taken, Mr. Griswald,” I stated.  “But it can’t go off without being cocked.  And the reason it’s loaded is because a rifle’s a necessary safeguard in open country.”  I tried educating him on some facts about the West.

“Safeguard?  Carelessness is inexcusable anywhere!” Mr. Griswald stated.

“I just explained-“ I started, but he wouldn’t let me finish Mr. high and mighty thought he was so much wiser then me.  He ordered – yes, ordered – me not to bring a firearm to the school again.

I stared at his retreating figure as he walked into the schoolhouse.  Boy, did I feel sorry for those kids right now!


75 posted on 03/12/2018 6:23:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CottonBall

https://metv.com/shows/the-rifleman

How about just fixing schools back to the 50’s standards?


76 posted on 03/12/2018 6:25:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
“It appears you are in possession of a rifle and/or Shotgun (listed below) that has an ammunition feeding device capable of holding more than five (5) rounds of ammunition.

Gosh!

Now I'll have to buy 3 that hold 5.

Oh well; I've got folks that can reload really fast to help me.

77 posted on 03/12/2018 6:26:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I love the rifleman :-) I’m surprised they would have that in the show. I suppose eventually that schoolteacher got educated?


78 posted on 03/12/2018 6:31:31 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: Elsie

I tape it often, I think it’s on TV land… Anyway I have it set up to automatically record so I’m not sure what channel finds it on.


79 posted on 03/12/2018 6:32:24 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: WayneS

TBA= Terrible Boating Accident?


80 posted on 03/12/2018 8:00:15 PM PDT by gogeo (excellent!)
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