Posted on 03/12/2018 6:01:06 AM PDT by Kaslin
Scot Morefield has an exaggerated sense of the average LEO. They all want to go home at night. Even the US Marshals. After about 48 hours of trying gun confiscation in the South they would refuse to go back out.
Somebody needs to tell Scott that this country is on the verge of civil war now. There are literally millions of highly pizzed off people walking around furious about stuff like the powers that be letting all these roach refugees in our country.
Just wait til the folks are watching a bunch of jackboots kicking in some poor schlubs door to take his guns. A couple of nights of that and everybody with a uniform is going to be a target.
Guns are the line in the sand.
Is that a new word you have learned? How special.
Must suck to live in your Mom’s basement and troll people on FR for your jollies.
He's correct that there a good number of gun owners who may be concerned about how their actions may affect wives and children. However, there are hundreds of thousands (millions?) of us who are currently on our own and at an age where we can shrug, say "I've had a good life", followed by "Damn the consequences."
The author thinks that it will only take a few arrests and confiscations before the rest of the gun owners "learn their lesson" and acquiesce to the tyranny. I say that the opposite is just as true, and far more likely: it won't take the ambushes and death of a few gun-grabbers to make the rest think that it's not worth their lives to do so ...
Racking up felony arrests against conservative, moderates or any non-liberal is a win for the left.
And, the local police chief might be delighted to record your arrest on the blotter for all to see. Also, that they seized an “arsenal” (ie: three boxes of ammo).
Sure, you’ll get off or get it reduced to a misdemeanor...there will be no jail time...after you spend $3-$5,000 on a lawyer.
Socialist do as they are told. The liberals run education, and are turning your children and grandchildren into Canadians.
I remember a post from my early days on FR. Can’t remember the poster’s name. He said any confiscation at his house would have three stages:
1. They come in and look for the guns. They find some but not all.
2. As they leave, he kills as many as he can.
3. They kill him.
Agree if you mean by that the most effective thing; i.e., modest incrementalism.
Of course, that wouldn't negate an eventual bloody response. Somewhere in my wall of books I recall reading the American Revolution was the result of roughly 5% of our population, and they were faced at the time by the world's most effective military. Many of the rest actually supported and helped the British.
One thing I have not seen discussed is an unintended consequence of gun banning laws. There have been such laws passed in California, NJ, Mass, and New York. From what I have read, compliance of these laws has been low, on the order of 20% or less.
It would seem that once the banned guns go underground, that would mean a large percentage of them are guaranteed to go to criminals. With the draconian penalties for owning or possessing such weapons, after the original owner dies, none of the survivors will turn over the weapon to the authorities. You just know that some overzealous prosecutor somewhere will bring the full weight of the state down on someone who tries to turn in such a gun. The word will spread fast.
So, the survivor will turn to someone they trust to “dispose” of the problem gun. I am guessing that a large percentage of those people will feed it to (if not outright criminals) questionable people. The next iteration will certainly go to outright criminals.
If so, the criminals in a few years are going to get an upgrade of weaponry courtesy of the gun banners.
That is a helpful point. The 2018 tax on your least expensive 1911 will $1200.
“America is at that awkward stage. It’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.” --- opening lines of “101 Things To Do ‘Til The Revolution by Claire Wolfe
Let’s approach this strictly from the standpoint of “working within the system”. Working within the system means complying with the Constitution’s amendment process to eliminate the Second Amendment. However, the citizen has the right to gun ownership in the absence of the Second Amendment.
Is government constitutionally empowered to “come and take our guns” after repeal of the Second Amendment? No, they are not.
Is government constitutionally empowered to create legislation to “come and take our guns” after repeal of the Second Amendment? No, they are not.
The issue then centers on the requirement to create an amendment that creates a new power of legislation.
If they couldn’t round up 50 million illegals, how are they going to round up a billion guns?
There is no organization. Very few would resist. Unorganized, untrained, 21st Century soft individuals will not have the nerve to rush to get themselves shot to pieces killed. Think Predator Drone, think Wart Hog. This talk about armed resistance sounds like fantasy-land bravado. Fifty years ago, maybe. Now, no way. The last of the ‘Nam draftees (US) and the ‘Nam volunteers (RA) are too old, and the all-volunteer troops after ‘Nam have been worn out and used up by multiple deployments. Think it through.
Well it was a figurative form of speech, not allowing them to be purchased Is the same as taking away one’s rights to have them.
It is sad when we have come to the point where we have to distinguish between the two, because those rights are being eroded. Now people here are to point of saying that although those in that age group can’t buy them, they can still have them, they’re not being taken away at their front door. As if that is some justification.
I don’t mean you, I’m speaking of those that are fine with us. I understand the distinction you are making.
> “The Federal government has never banned a single gun already lawfully owned by a citizen.”
True, but several states have banned and seized what once had been legal guns. California, NJ, Mass, and New York are a few. In fact, NY has a squad that specifically checks death certificates against gun ownership lists and shows up sometimes before the person is buried to confiscate their guns.
Standing idly by, while states slowly pass these laws 1 by 1 is going to kill America. Apathy is a terrible thing.
Not any more!!
I would have used the big magnet to get mine out of the lake after that boating accident; but it kept snagging on something in the very deep water.
IP address noted and recorded.
NSA Agent 2713
Sounds like a plan.
Next door neighbor takes notes.
Guys from Janet Reno’s WACO squad visit him with a TANK mounted ‘tear gas’ applier.
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