Posted on 02/15/2018 5:18:41 PM PST by ml/nj
I don't know. I'm asking.
I graduated high school in 1964. During the entire time I was in school Wikipedia reports that there was one incident where three people were killed in US schools, and none where two people were killed. There was an average somewhere between one and two incidents a year where one was killed.
Guns were MUCH MORE AVAILABLE then. Schools had rifle teams. I shot an untethered .22 at Coney Island. I shot guns at Boy Scout Camp. Anyone who thinks that more gun restrictions now would help is oblivious to this.
We also played with make-believe guns. My cap pistols looked like real guns. We played Cowboys and Indians. I'm not a fan of the shoot-em up video games, but it's hard to see how they are very different from the games I played.
So, what's different? Movies and TV shows are different. Respect for the US is different. Victim mentality is different. Respect for religion is different. There's a lot more welfare and a lot more taxes. Manners are different, or non-existent. I think government schools are different, but I haven't been in one for 50+ years so I'm just guessing.
We need to return to what worked. Continuing with more great solutions that make things worse strikes me as the wrong way to approach the problem we have.
ML/NJ
Totally agree. The media’s fear mongering has wrecked havoc.
I agree with you. I’ve seen the stats that show that as more and more women worked outside the home, the men’s income plummeted.
OMG.....I loved it
You could not pay me to put a child in public school. People need to be able to send their children to the school of their choice and schools need to get back to basics. Better yet school them yourselves, they would stand a better chance.
My thinking is that we are a MUCH less civil society today specifically because we have allowed the LIEberals to strip the classroom of the Golden Rule, the Ten Commandments, the Pledge of Allegiance and the National Anthem.
Furthermore, we have allowed the LIEberals to remove any and all courses related to citizenship FRom Grammar, Jr. High and High Schools, and the “taught” American History is so PC as to be unrecognizable by my peers (1959 HS Grad).
We are, as Pogo so famously noted, THE enemy!
In addition, since 1965, unfettered immigration of people FRom Third World countries, both legal and illegal, has unquestionably diluted the society, changing the social construct and social contract in ways never considered by the LIEberal politicians who forced it upon us — who are now dead, of course! And who don’t have to deal with the horrible consequences of their insanity!
The solution to the problem will not be arrived at easily, nor will it, I fear, be unbloody.
Mentally ill people who want to be momentarily notorious play to that 24 x 7, incessant, gazillion channel news machine. Back in the 50s, you had a couple of radio stations playing music with five minutes of news highlights at the top of the hour and three TV stations with a nightly news hour at 6 pm. CNN and the 11 o'clock news had not been invented. On September 2, 1963, the CBS Evening News expanded from 15 to 30 minutes! Prior to the 1960s, the typical late-night newscast was local and lasted a mere 15 minutes.
Then on August 1, 1966, Charles Whitman changed everything.
LOL!
Three good reasons, DBrow. The de-institutionalization of mentally ill people has been a total disaster. Every burg, town and city is overrun with homeless people, many of whom should be committed. They degrade civic life to the point where Internet “poop maps” are now online.
Don’t forget another big factor - PROPAGANDA - In movies, news, and video games/cartoons.
In my day we had Father knows best, Leave it to Beaver, and Lassie. Compare that to the violence of today.
The Huntley Brinkley report at least appeared to have some standards - now it’s lies, lies, and more lies. CNN - Counterfeit News Network.
In 1962, my 15th year alive, I was in sophomore R.O.C.T. at Bellaire High School and issued an M-1 Garand (serial number IIRC 3,119,331 but it was not all matching) that was fully functional plus being originally issued in August of 1944 when World War Two was in its final year. It could have possibly been in Korea as it was refinished in 1953 at the Army's Springfield Armory. When I shot it, I normally put all 8 rounds into three to four inch groups into the bull at 100 yards with open sights. I kept it at home when not at school. Friday's were uniform day and I wore mine and openly carried my M-1 on the school bus to school for drill. I carried it, again openly, to all my classes and again back on the bus home when school was over.
Now try to imagine that being reality in this day and age?
Personal ethics and pride..
You are quite right, of course.
The real bottom line, IMHO, is that we conservatives spent our time being productive citizens, raising our families and trying to make a better America.
We pretty much were too busy doing all that to pay attention to the LIEberals, who spent their time destroying America.
And, they very nearly succeeded! They are still at it!
Thank God we elected Donald J. Trump in 2016!
We may, just may, be able to Make America Great Again!
But in order to do that, LIEberalism MUST BE DESTROYED!
Good question...good article...good sense. I graduated high school in 1963, so I can fully identify with your sentiments.
I, however, would like to add one, major, huge, factor in the demise of society since that time....CIVIL RIGHTS.
Don’t get me wrong, I think everyone deserves equal rights and a level playing field (citizens, anyway), but when “civil” rights replaced “Constitutional Rights”, it started downhill.
Civil rights allowed politicians to veer from the confines of the Constitution in order to mold people/groups into voting blocs to keep them in office.
INTEGRATION - Integration was a great idea, but, the rules were skewed, bars were lowered, and “special” rights for minorities were born. If we objected, cities were looted and burned, and scared politicians appeased the offending groups with extra candy and a federal num-num.
Black kids moved into white schools - no big problem, except for the fact that the divisive race mongers we right there, making huge deals out of even the slightest, perceived, infraction of “civil rights”.
Years of discipline in white schools started dying, because to punish a black student for the same offensive behavior, was “racism”. Before long, whites said, “If you’re not going to punish black kids by the book, then then you’re not going to punish the white kids either.” (paraphrasing).
Add one for anarchy.
Vote-hungry politicians were a high tension spring waiting for any chance to appease any minority group for any reason, granting them whatever special rights they could conjure to placate their behavior, instead of resorting to any meaningful punishment (racism, you know).
It wasn’t that long before the new word, “racism” was recognized as a word more powerful to blacks than “SHAZAM” was to Captain Marvel. It brought them powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal white folks, pushing the two major, American rule books - the Constitution, and the Ten Commandments - into the dusty corner.
We had an instant population of spoiled children - both adult and non-adult. Everyone wanted their way. Every time a “stopping point” arose, it only too the threat of a riot, or burning, to hand the ball back to the minorities.
The Socialist/Communist thing was in full swing, and they saw the dream opportunity to “divide and conquer”, and a house divided, cannot stand. Tantrum riots and marches were happening as often as they thought of a new freebie they wanted/needed, and the growing liberal (read:socialist/communist) authorities capitulated.
This was working good, for them. Meanwhile, the whole of society was sliding into a sea of mediocrity and anger. The more “civil” rights replaced “Constitutional” rights, the angrier the citizens became; the angrier the citizens became, and more violent the minorities became...the seeds of a new civil war were planted.
Over the years - based on the “civil/special” rights vs Constitutional rights model, every special interest saw their opening to cash in. There was feminism, gay rights, etc, etc etc...all claiming the basic tenants, and special rights...the greedy congress and presidents again capitulated.
It became a cancer, feeding upon itself to grow, and grow. It got expensive to grant these special rights, so taxes were increased. All American citizens were expected to foot the bill for a very small group based on the convolution of history and a growing, National guilt trip.
Crying, wilting, liberals paraded every sad story they could find before us on the six o’clock news. The same people who got behind these crybabies were like the same ones pushing illegal immigration today...it’s all about the votes...always was, always will be.
Television and movies played their part, as well. If nothing else, it added to the dream of every American boy and girl to be a “star”, or at least the “center of attention”. Everyone wanted fame, and fortune - after all, TV made it look like everyone on America was rich, compared to us poor slobs who were working and paying the bills.
Pressure on people elevated, anxiety rose, and a new, National solution was found - drugs. If you couldn’t handle life sober, somehow, you thought you could handle it perpetually stoned. But, when the drugs and money ran out, the problems were still there, waiting patiently, with a 120 day late charge. Deficits were deafening.
TV and movies numbed the shock levels in people. The wilder, and more radical - the goryer and more bloody, the more tickets sold at the box office. Sure, the cowboy shows of the 50’s showed people shot, but they didn’t show blood and innards splattering all over the screen.
It’s escalated and all from “civil/special” rights, rights that courts and Congress has no right to grant. Gross manipulation and interpretation of the Constitution, instead of the written word, ruled the country. Instead of running things based on our original, founding document, the radical left wanted to run it as they thought it should be. One of Obama’s chief complaints about the Constitution was that it is a highly “restrictive” document...which is saying in minority-speak, it grants no special rights for color, race, gender, sexual orientation, or religion.
I’m getting tired, and wrote this all in one continuous gush of thoughts, so don’t be surprised if you encounter misspellings, and grammar errors.
But, I was there at the (relative) beginning of all this civil/special rights business. In fact, my class was the last segregated class in our school.
But the “land of the brave” has disappointed me; we were not brave on our own home front. We rolled over like trained Chihuahuas anytime any minority/special interest group whimpered, and we have lost the battle.
We should have said, ok...equal rights under the Constitution...and “that’s it”. But...no...there were votes involved.
Greedy and power-hungry politicians brought us to where we are today, and insofar as they still hold the key to the gates, I don’t see a way out.
I believe the difference between NOW and YESTERYEAR is that today we are seeing a MAJOR and MASSIVE BREAKDOWN in CIVILITY.
Much of it has been brought about and amplified through the DESENSITIZATION of our younger generation through incidental things such as movies, video games, etc.
You really delivered a mouthful of TRUTH with that statement.
Today's journalists are filling far too many brains with "$HIT"... which is WHY we have so many "$HIT for BRAINS LIBERALS"... they simply AGREE and NEVER QUESTION.
Collapsing culture, which MUST be reclaimed.
I agree, but take it to the Lord in prayer. That’s the only way it will happen. JMHO
Still growing up.
Whaat’s different?
Well, letg’s see - there were plenty of guns - country kids would drive to school with their hunting rifles racked in the window behind them
OH - well, here’s one difference today
All for MONEY, POWER and POLITICAL AGENDA
and not a peep for the media OR WE THE PEOPLE
sins of OMISSION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhli0-kI3nU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo0iWh53Pjs
FINALLY! YOU are the FIRST person -ALL DAY - on FR and in FB that has actually named the real cause!
You post: “ PROZAC!!!
It makes everything and anything ok. I knew co-workers who started it and I was really shocked by the change. Talking to one of them was like having a razor blade waved in my face.
The prescribers of Prozac to people who do crimes should also be held accountable - somehow.”
But they are not alone - It’s the POLITICIANS that aiding and abetting - they make millions of their drug stock portfolios - (insider trading)
MONEY. POWER. POLITICAL AGENDA. (gun control)
It’s FAR worse than you suspect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhli0-kI3nU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo0iWh53Pjs
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