Posted on 01/22/2018 12:54:21 PM PST by Kaslin
Sometimes it is helpful to look at an issue from another perspective, to see what the other person is seeing. Since we've been hearing and reading about the immigration-DACA issue for so long now, let's attempt to look at this topic from perspectives different from the common theme. These other perspectives attempt to move beyond simple emotion and ask slightly more meaningful questions regarding the topic, reaching for a reason-based solution.
The common theme is "They were brought here by their parents through no fault of their own. Why should we punish them by making them go back?" The first word we can turn around is "punish." A completely different way to view this might be as follows. "You were born in a Central or South American country and were destined to spend your first 25 years (at least) in that country, which affords significantly fewer opportunities than are available above the Rio Grande. But, as luck would have it, you were randomly selected, among all of the 600 million people who live down there, to be able to spend your first 25 years in the promised land, where essentially every single measure of quality of life exceeded that which you initially faced. At the end of that time, you'd be asked to go back to your native country and begin to contribute there. Perhaps, when back home, you might even be able to improve your homeland. You'd have an exponentially better chance of doing so, given the opportunities you were provided. In fact, one could make the argument that you would have an obligation to do so, given the complete randomness of your selection. So, given that choice, DACA children, which would you have selected?"
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I would like to see them all be sent back but even though I’m normally an optimistic person I don’t see that happening. It’s not like they don’t have family wherever it is they came from. I didn’t have any real animus toward them until they started demanding rights, voting illegally, flying their country’s flags, stomping on our flag, marching in the streets, etc. If their parents are deported due to outlawing chain migration I expect a lot of them to go anyway.
SHUT DA F-KUP WHITEY!!!
Reasoning like this with our new turboghetto populations will only end up like this every time, I fear:
https://youtu.be/kn200lvmTZc?t=2m18s
And if we do not end this NOW, and do RETROACTIVE disqualification (back to 9/11/01) it will get expomentially harder when half the white population is cuckolded to the point of suicide and self-extinction.
THIS is a better analogy: from @steph93605 on Twitter: "If your parents sneak you into Disneyland without paying, is it Disney's fault when you are booted out, or is it the fault of your parents?"
The worst problem with dealing with all of this is the dims have been promising all the illegals for years everything they could possibly want on a silver platter. The dims even promised them things they could not possibly deliver (full amnesty) which is why we are still dealing with these issues. If there had been enough support for DACA even among the dims...it would have been passed as a law and O wouldn’t have had to use his pen to keep the votes...
At this point anything we do offer to do to help them- a student VISA until they finish school- a work permit- no matter what it is it seems like nothing next to what the dims keep promising- full citizenship for them and all of illegals and unlimited freebies. That is why the illegals make outrageous demands...they are promised literally everything to the point now when we try to actually help them or be nice about getting them out they think it is a slap in the face.
I am wondering if all the groups the dims make all these promises to are going to wake up one day and figure out it was all BS.
The parents of course.
I say no, treat as a class of those who were brought. Some might have distrusted Obama.
If they will apply under a legal Trump program and the facts support the claim they are in.
Anything less loses the mushy middle.
The 3,000,000 are now not eligible to apply because the President canceled DACA. Only the 800,000 are to be dealt with.
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Every bill, including the Goodlatte bill, widens up eligibility to way beyond those already signed up.
3-4 million minimum.
Everybody has to leave Disneyland as far as I know. So bad analogy.
And the truth is if Republicans did agree to give them everything they could possibly ask for- they would give the credit to the dims and still vote D...
Let me guess. You have never lived in California to witness firsthand what catering to the mushy-middle’s sentimental idea of illegal aliens does to a state.
Second that
Legalization doesn’t mean granting citizenship. It means a visa. In theory they don’t vote. In practice it’s not so easy.
That is how it should play out...but RINOs are such pushovers for illegals I am sure that won’t be how it works.
Without its votes we go Democrat again. Better to take what is de facto out of the shadow.
Exactly. We don’t need immigration legislation (other than to kill the 1965 Rat Act). All we need is to enforce everify laws already in place. Start fining and jailing employers and they will leave themselves.
Thus it's an existential question for them and they will not compromise nor backdown, ever.
End the illegal DACA program.
Restore the rule of law.
Remove ALL illegal aliens.
Build the Wall.
In practice you have California and the Arizonia and finally they are up in New England..until legal citizens are the minority.
American citizens? Who cares about them?They're the last to be considered nowadays.
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