Posted on 12/13/2017 4:26:31 AM PST by x1stcav
Several establishment Republicans cheered as the Alabama Senate Republican candidate Judge Roy Moore lost to his Democratic opponent Doug Jones.
Here are some of the establishment Republicans who praised Roy Moores loss in the Alabama Senate race on Tuesday:
National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) Chairman Cory Gardner (R-CO) said in a statement, Tonights results are clear the people of Alabama deemed Roy Moore unfit to serve in the U.S. Senate. I hope Senator-elect Doug Jones will do the right thing and truly represent Alabama by choosing to vote with the Senate Republican Majority.
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My take is that if he didn't appoint GOP establishmentarians to his cabinet, the GOP establishment in Congress would side with Democrats in making sure that no legislation on Trump's agenda would ever make it to the President's desk. I don't like that either, but those seem to be the facts on the ground. That may be why he played ball with them again and endorsed Strange over Moore - the alternative is that the charges against Moore were already an open secret in some circles and he was too much of a risk.
I want nothing more to do with what is called the Republican Party.
What is needed is an American party to represent this country and not K Street.
And meanwhile what happens to the US?
Does it matter?
Votes don’t come with “style points”.
Judging by yesterday, I would say so. No one came out to support Crazy Roy... they simply didnt like him. If he had simply gotten just 2/3 of what Trump got he would have won in a landslide...
Well, both. But if some Republican other than Trump had the nomination, I would have been solely voting against Hillary. Most conservatives who pulled the lever for Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, and Romney weren't voting "for" these guys, who were mediocre at their best and terrible most of the time. They were voting against Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, and Obama.
I wasn't a fan of Moore's Elmer Gantryism either, but I would have voted against Jones, as you probably would have too.
I’ll go further.
Trump should have never won. That he did was a major failure of a carefully constructed system where in there appeared to be two parties with two ideologies in opposition, there was one party that essentially agreed on almost everything.
That Moore lost last night in a state carried by Trump by 28% is a successful test of a system that ensures mistakes like Trump never happen again.
Elections are too important to leave up to voters.
The appearance of a republic is what both parties are after. They’ll be damned if that’s what they get.
my point is, Trump didnt crash Hitlarys blue wall by getting people to vote against Hitlary... they voted FOR TRump, something they never would have done for Romney or Mclame... I pulled the lever for Mclame and Romney... but i WANTED to for Trump... that was the difference in a lot of other people i suspect.
However, you may have a point in Jones' case. While conservatives don't like Jones, I doubt they have the same dislike for him as they did for Hillary, so there's less of a motive to go out and vote against him.
Oh my God! How much BS will we have to take today. Man what doozie!. LOL You can't be serious?
True Hitlary WAS hated... but she also got more votes than Zero I believe... so voting against her WAS a factor no doubt... but to me, those people in blue states voted FOR Trump more than against Hitlary...they voted cause they wanted their jobs to come back... thats something to vote FOR... any other R i think wouldnt have fared as well in Blue states...
Jones only looks sane next to Crazy Roy... hopefully him being in a deep red state will temper his voting. We will see what he wants more, to please smucky, or save his own ass... being a politician... I have my suspicions on which he will choose...
I’m absolutely serious. In case you didn’t notice, Hillary was by far the weakest candidate that the Democrats ran in decades. Even the grassroots of her own party didn’t like her, especially the Bernie-bots. Low turnout among the base would have done her in, while her overwhelming negatives would have motivated conservatives and Republicans to vote against her (almost) no matter who was on the GOP ticket.
If you actually believe that Bush would have beaten Hillary then you are a political idiot.
I'd be very surprised if this were true, especially in comparison to the 2008 election where media hype made Obama into a "rock star" and motivated the otherwise politically apathetic late teen/early 20's MTV crowd to vote for him in droves
Before you call me an idiot, work on your own reading skills. I said in my post #111 that just about any Republican with the possible exception of Jeb Bush would have defeated Hillary in 2016. How much more clear could I have made it? Jeb Bush and the Bushes generally are about the only names in politics with as many associated political negatives in the public mind as Hillary, and for very good reasons.
Ok i just check she got basically what zero got in 2012... not sure about 08. she still got tons of idiots voting for her... the difference, esp in blue states, i think is people voted FOR Trump...
just checked zero got 69 million in 08 vs 65 in 12...which is what hitlary got...
None of the other candidates would have beaten Hillary. None. Donald rump is a God send and a miracle. You thinking that makes you a political idiot. You missed the political story of the century. You still don’t get it. Cruz was not going to beat Hillary, none of the GOPe swampers were gong to either.. Get over it.
You still need to vote in the primaries against the incumbent GOPE hack. Still do that, just the f with them.
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