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Smokers Continue to Cost All of Us More Than All Of Obamacare
valuewalk ^ | July 29, 2017 | JOHN F. BANZHAF

Posted on 07/30/2017 8:41:21 AM PDT by Drango

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To: kaila

Bill Clinton claims he didn’t inhale when he smoked pot, in order to distance himself from “pot smokers”. Most inhale pot.


41 posted on 07/30/2017 9:25:17 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: vooch

If insurance companies can charge higher rates for smokers, then they should be able to charge higher rates for behavior which increases risk of HIV.


42 posted on 07/30/2017 9:25:45 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Drango

Get the government out of health care and this isn’t an issue.

It WAS a free country people and smokers have just as many rights to smoking as you do to drinking, eating red meat against government edict (or was it bacon or margarine this week?)

It’s one thing to have laws against smoking in public/shared spaces - entirely another to force it on private businesses and homes and it’s disgusting we’ve been brainwashed to let the government act this way.


43 posted on 07/30/2017 9:28:55 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: sargon
I hate cigarette smoke, but there's something I hate much more: nanny-state government that attempts to tell people how much nicotine they can have in their cigarettes.

"If your government is big enough to give you everything you want, it is big enough to take away everything you have." (Not Thomas Jefferson but still true)

44 posted on 07/30/2017 9:29:32 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: bray
Are we really sure smoking causes cancer?

Are you joking? Do you believe the earth is flat?

45 posted on 07/30/2017 9:29:53 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: mrsmith

Ain’t that the truth. When Exxon funds a study we should disregard their corporate lies but when another corporation,The American Lung Association, does a study it’s the holy grail.


46 posted on 07/30/2017 9:30:12 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (I'm tired of the Cult of Clinton. Wish she would just pass out the Koolaide)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Over eaters too aka fat people.


47 posted on 07/30/2017 9:30:23 AM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: Drango

Of course, peter puffing is just OK.


48 posted on 07/30/2017 9:31:00 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: kaila
I don’t think pot smokers inhale into their lungs.

Not only do pot smokers inhale, they inhale deeply and hold it in their lungs as long as possible to maximize absorption of THC into the bloodstream. Lots of pot smokers die of lung cancer....Bob Marley for instance.

49 posted on 07/30/2017 9:31:12 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (For the sake of His sorrowful passion have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: Drango

Boy, the old liberal comeback. Guess you believe salt is bad for you too.


50 posted on 07/30/2017 9:31:21 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Drango
Pot's ok, but cigarettes are not.

A HOLES!!!

51 posted on 07/30/2017 9:31:37 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Drango

Wonder why we don’t see the same studies about the cost of homosexual sex which puts smoking to shame for shortening of life? Keep marching in lockstep comrade.


52 posted on 07/30/2017 9:33:03 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Drango
Statistics consistently show several things...first,that about 15% of Americans smoke (tobacco)...second,that members of the lower socioeconomic groups make up the huge majority of smokers.

A personal observation: I worked for about 35 years at a very,*very* famous hospital affiliated with a very,*very* famous medical school.When I first arrived (1970's) at least 75% of the nurses I worked with smoked and at least one third of the physicians did.When I left,not even 25% of the nurses smoked and,to the best of my knowledge,*none* of the physicians did.

Socioeconomics at work.

53 posted on 07/30/2017 9:33:53 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: kaila

You obviously never met the bong I had back in the day. LOL


54 posted on 07/30/2017 9:34:39 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (I'm tired of the Cult of Clinton. Wish she would just pass out the Koolaide)
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To: indthkr
I'm sure the Left will insist that marijuana smokers receive a special exemption from smoker vs. non-smoker differentiation.

Nobody smokes weed anymore except dried up old hippies. The cool kids these days are vaping and eating it.

55 posted on 07/30/2017 9:35:43 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: vooch
Allow insurance companies to charge different rates and offer different benefits for smokers versus non-smokers.

Absolutely...life insurance companies already do so.If you smoke,are fat,get speeding tickets,engage in perverse sex acts,etc...you should pay more for health insurance.

56 posted on 07/30/2017 9:37:07 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: HerrBlucher

Maybe that is true, but what I have seen ( I don’t smoke pot) is that they puff. A smoker inhales more because they take it deeper into their lungs and inhale more frequently, probably 20 inhalations per cigarette. A pot smoker puffs about 3 times to get high.


57 posted on 07/30/2017 9:37:14 AM PDT by kaila
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To: vooch

Problem with that is most smokers are disproportionately from the lower economic strata, therefore they are most likely to be on medicare or Medicaid. Which of course we pay for.


58 posted on 07/30/2017 9:41:40 AM PDT by OIFVeteran
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To: MarMema

That is the scenario that public health policy should address.

It would lead to encouraging alternatives to cigarettes so people don’t start.
And it leads to developing treatments that reverse smoking’s damage.

The first thing one hears from COPD smokers is “It won’t make any difference now- it’s too late”.
And that’s true.
But treatment that made even marginal improvement could be combined with cessation to make a noticeable improvement.

Unfortunately ALL smoking taxes are spent on ‘goodies’ and diverting any funds to treatment would be politically impossible.


59 posted on 07/30/2017 9:42:39 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Nifster

No problem! My post, again, was pure sarcasm, leveled at a Kalifornian, who can’t seem to be, or want others, taxed enough!


60 posted on 07/30/2017 9:45:06 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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