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Smokers Continue to Cost All of Us More Than All Of Obamacare
valuewalk ^ | July 29, 2017 | JOHN F. BANZHAF

Posted on 07/30/2017 8:41:21 AM PDT by Drango

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To: Drango

I’ll bet pot smoking isn’t included in the statistics.


21 posted on 07/30/2017 9:10:05 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Drango

Are we really sure smoking causes cancer? Is this good science or junk to destroy an industry?


22 posted on 07/30/2017 9:13:15 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Drango
This will only increase smoking. Instead of smoking one cigarette for a nicotine fix, the nicotine addict will smoke two cigarettes. This is a fact. How isolated from reality can these bureaucrats be?

Forcing a hard liquor drunk to drink beer only means he will drink more beer to get drunk. No different with cigarettes for the nicotine addict.



23 posted on 07/30/2017 9:13:19 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: Drango

Just curious; Which is the bigger harm, nicotine or inhaling all that smoke 20 times per day?


24 posted on 07/30/2017 9:13:22 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Drango

The American Lung Association estimates that smoking costs the American economy... some self serving amount they make up out of thin air.

Idiots believe biased reports if those idiots are similarly biased.

That’s why they’re idiots!


25 posted on 07/30/2017 9:13:53 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Drango

Maybe a good place to start would be not to subsidize tobacco while simultaneously attacking it.
That’s just me. I’m not as smart as a politician. For example, I wouldn’t arm both sides in a conflict.


26 posted on 07/30/2017 9:14:28 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
I'LL BETCHA ILLEGAL ALIENS COST OUR HEATH CARE SYSTEM MORE.. WHAT ABOUT BIRTHS OF ANCHOR BABIES?
27 posted on 07/30/2017 9:14:40 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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To: Drango

I don’t smoke, quit 40 years ago.

But this moralistic pogrom against smokers on behalf of the beleaguered taxpayer is complete hypocrisy at best. Another step down the progressive totalitarian slippery slope.

Whenever the government imposes sanctions on one segment of society, ostensibly for the benefit of “the taxpayer”, it is a smokescreen. Please, someone tell me when the government ever cared about the financial burden on the public, AKA the taxpayer?

All of you who who cheer this don’t realize the Pandora’s Box opened by this. The list of potential reasons you can be denied basic rights based on this “logic” is endless. And sooner or later the busy bodies *will* get to you. Guaranteed.

It is impossible for any of us to live in such a manner that we do not affect others financially. Turning our society into a totalitarian nightmare will not change that. These things will naturally work themselves out best in a free society. Solved? Nothing is ever “solved”.

Words to live by:
The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions.
and
NO ONE escapes the Law of Unintended Consequences.


28 posted on 07/30/2017 9:15:21 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
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To: vooch
When a smoker has to pay 5 times more for health insurance versus a non-smoker, that might change behavior quicker than any gov’t “plan”

I wish that were true. Working in healthcare I see people who can hardly breathe but still smoke a few, have home oxygen nasal cannula but leave it indoors and sneak outside for a smoke, and more who are slowly killing themselves with smoking. The ones I see and just described are on EBT and medicaid, get meals on wheels, have dogs who get no vet care at all.

I hope something makes a difference.

29 posted on 07/30/2017 9:15:45 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Drango

Why are we so concerned about to tobacco when we are introducing the public to marijuana? Is tobacco smoke any more dangerous to a person’s health than marijuana smoke?


30 posted on 07/30/2017 9:16:49 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: vooch

Smokers pay more for life insurance, so; why not health insurance. Obama sold the CHIP program based on smokers paying for it. What bothers me is the 71 million on CHIP and Medicaid. Almost 1/4 of America is getting free healthcare plus much more.


31 posted on 07/30/2017 9:17:37 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Drango

I’m all for freedom and people can choose a very unhealthy end of life if they want. I’m sad about it though. Smokers die sooner and die desperate for breath. It doesn’t matter what they smoke; it’s all bad. Vaping would be MUCH healthier.


32 posted on 07/30/2017 9:18:09 AM PDT by Yaelle (We have a Crisis of Information in this country. Our enemies hold the megaphone.)
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To: Drango

Why single out smokers?

Why not address all self destructive conduct and issues?

How much does AIDS cost taxpayers?

How much do sex change procedures and therapy cost taxpayers.

How much do out of wedlock births, disappearing fathers and one-parent matriarchal households cost taxpayers?

How much does federal and state handouts to illegals cost taxpayers?


33 posted on 07/30/2017 9:19:50 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpin' before Trumpin' was cool.....)
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To: Drango

You sure do like your Big Government.


34 posted on 07/30/2017 9:20:44 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (I'm tired of the Cult of Clinton. Wish she would just pass out the Koolaide)
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To: Drango
public interest law professor John Banzhaf

I rest my case. This whole piece is absolute big government crappola. More taxes, more government programs, more government "grants" (is there anything more corrupt than government "grants"), less freedom. Did I miss anything?

35 posted on 07/30/2017 9:20:44 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there")
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To: Nifster

Thank you! My post was total sarcasm! Leveled at those that continue to want to tax, or increase taxes, on everything! Good, bad or indifferent!


36 posted on 07/30/2017 9:21:08 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: umgud
Just curious; Which is the bigger harm, nicotine or inhaling all that smoke 20 times per day?

Nicotine is good for you. It is neuroprotective among other things. I learned that here on FR and have the thread saved somewhere on my fr links. But google it.

37 posted on 07/30/2017 9:21:23 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: 353FMG

I would think tobacco would be more dangerous than pot. You inhale tobaccco smoke, I don’t think pot smokers inhale into their lungs.


38 posted on 07/30/2017 9:21:59 AM PDT by kaila
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To: kaila

I think you’re thinking about cigars.


39 posted on 07/30/2017 9:23:45 AM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: Road Warrior ‘04
My bad My sarcasm detector has been really faulty lately. I guess I need to lighten up some before I aggregate everyone. Hope you have a wonderful rest of the weekend....not sarcasm. 😉
40 posted on 07/30/2017 9:24:00 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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