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Smokers Continue to Cost All of Us More Than All Of Obamacare
valuewalk ^ | July 29, 2017 | JOHN F. BANZHAF

Posted on 07/30/2017 8:41:21 AM PDT by Drango

Government cracks down on tobacco but there is better way to cut health-care costs

The federal government has announced plans to reduce the amount of nicotine in cigarettes in a completely untested attempt to reduce smoking, but this approach will take many years to even be put into effect, and such an approach ignores many other proven techniques which will work more quickly, and could slash health-care costs now, says public interest law professor John Banzhaf.

Banzhaf has been called “The Man Behind the Ban on Cigarette Commercials,” “The Law Professor Who Masterminded Litigation Against the Tobacco Industry,” and “a Driving Force Behind the Lawsuits That Have Cost Tobacco Companies Billions of Dollars.”

The approach announced Friday by the Food and Drug Administration [FDA] involves two different sequential rulemaking proceedings, a process which will take many years even to put a new rule into place, and one likely to be delayed even more by the inevitable litigation.

The FDA proposal also not only omitted for the nicotine-reduction requirement so-called e-cigarettes, a growing source of nicotine and nicotine addiction in both children and adults, but also extended until 2021 the time for manufactures of this deadly and addictive product to submit applications.

The announcement that the government plans to regulate nicotine in tobacco cigarettes, but not e-cigarettes, and to give e-cigarette manufactures years more time to submit their applications, was made by FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, who, coincidentally, was previously on the board of e-cigarette maker Kure.

Ironically, there are many other actions the federal government could take which would have a much bigger and more immediate effect, says Banzhaf, noting the increased pressure to do something about rising health-care premiums now that efforts to pass health-care reform legislative have collapsed. Here’s why.

The American Lung Association estimates that smoking costs the American economy about $322 billion a year. This includes over $175 billion in direct medical care for adults, but does not include the huge increased indirect costs such has higher numbers of complications from surgery, delayed healing, etc.

Most of this alarming cost is now being borne by nonsmoking taxpayers in the form of higher taxes (to pay for Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs) as well as ever-escalating health-care costs (in the form of higher premiums, changing deductibles, etc.).

Since the Congressional Budget Office [CBO] estimates that Obamacare would cost about $1.34 trillion over the next decade – just under $140 billion/yr – reducing smoking could cover the entire cost of any new health plan – including many times over the costs attributable to pre-existing conditions – without using taxpayers’ money, or imposing higher insurance rates on the great majority of Americans who do not smoke.

Indeed, notes Banzhaf, since neither Obamacare nor any of the major Republican approaches to change it actually reduce health-care costs. but rather simply try to shift the huge existing burden, doing something like reducing smoking may be the only way to reduce health-care costs which are now imposed on policy holders, taxpayers, medical device makers, and others.

Here are several ways it could be done much more quickly and effectively than the totally untried long-term technique of reducing the nicotine concentrations in tobacco cigarettes.

One simple measure would be to raise the federal cigarette tax from its current level of $1.01/pack – a rate which has remained unchanged since 2009.

The Congressional Budget Office has recommended an increase of fifty cents per pack – an amount many studies have shown would significantly reduce the rate of smoking, and the huge medical costs imposed on the American economy, by the mere fifteen percent of adult population which still smokes – and an increase of one dollar per pack would have an even larger effect on reducing unnecessary health-care costs.

Interestingly, the CBO noted as one reason for raising the tax that “tobacco consumers may underestimate the addictive power of nicotine and the harm that smoking causes.”

Numerous studies have shown again and again that significant increases in cigarette tax rates are one of the most effective ways to help persuade smokers to quit.

Unlike most government anti-smoking programs which cost millions to hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars, the cost of using this very effective technique is zero; or even less than zero, since net revenue increases even after making allowance for the reduction in the number of smokers.

Prohibiting smoking in workplaces and public places is another technique which has been proven to be very effective in reducing the rates of smoking and, like increasing taxes, is one of the few measures which cost taxpayers nothing.

Yet more than forty percent of the population live in a jurisdiction which does not yet have a comprehensive smoking law prohibiting smoking in workplaces, restaurants, and bars.

The federal government could remedy that problem, and immediately slash smoking rates, simply by adopting a federal clean indoor air act similar to that proven to be so effective in many states.

Alternatively, much the same result could be achieved without the need for any action by Congress by providing strong incentives for jurisdictions which do not now have comprehensive smoking restrictions to adopt them.

For example, the Department of Health and Human Services [HHS], which includes the FDA, could simply adopt a policy of giving priority in awarding health-related grants to jurisdictions which protect nonsmokers – and thereby also help persuade smokers to quit – by having clean indoor air restrictions in place.

The keen competition for these billions in grants would provide a very strong incentive for these remaining jurisdictions to join the remainder of the country, and save money, by prohibiting smoking.

A third technique would be to rescind guidance under Obamacare which requires companies to permit smokers to avoid the fifty percent smoker surcharge Banzhaf helped get included under Obamacare by simply spending a few hours each year in smoking withdrawal classes.

Congress intended to impose personal responsibility on smokers, the fifteen percent of the adult population which impose an unnecessary $322 billion dollar a year cost on all taxpayers, and not to let them skirt this requirement by attending a class or two, argues Banzhaf.

The current health-care costs and medical expense crisis cannot be solved, or even significantly reduced, simply by shifting the new costs of insuring tens of millions of previously uninsured Americans to other entities such as middle class workers, hospitals, medical device makers, etc., notes Banzhaf.

Nor will tinkering around the edges – adopting electronic medical care records, improving record keeping, reducing unspecified “waste,” etc. – do much to solve the underlying problems, he says.

“It’s obviously far more effective to prevent a heart attack, lung cancer, or stroke from ever happening – e.g. by reducing smoking – than to treat it, no matter how effective the treatment might be.”

The best and most effective way to attack the health-care cost crisis is to recognize that so much of it is caused by smoking, and to start imposing personnel responsibility on the fifteen percent of American adults who continue smoking, expecting nonsmokers to absorb the cost, subsidize their insurance, etc., he says.


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Most of this alarming cost is now being borne by nonsmoking taxpayers in the form of higher taxes (to pay for Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs) as well as ever-escalating health-care costs (in the form of higher premiums, changing deductibles, etc.)....the fifteen percent of the adult population which impose an unnecessary $322 billion dollar a year cost on all taxpayers,
1 posted on 07/30/2017 8:41:21 AM PDT by Drango
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To: Drango
The Congressional Budget Office has recommended an increase of fifty cents per pack

YES!

2 posted on 07/30/2017 8:42:02 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

The obvious solution is to let the free market do its magic.

Allow insurance companies to charge different rates and offer different benefits for smokers versus non-smokers.

When a smoker has to pay 5 times more for health insurance versus a non-smoker, that might change behavior quicker than any gov’t “plan”


3 posted on 07/30/2017 8:46:11 AM PDT by vooch (America First)
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To: Drango
Actual Freedom incurs numerous challenging "burdens" on society. Motor vehicles killed as many as 40,000 people last years, with over 4-1/2 million seriously injured. Many of those deaths were due to alcohol impairment. Many more deaths each year result from alcohol-related violence.

But none of that means that we should criminalize cars or alcohol.

I hate cigarette smoke, but there's something I hate much more: nanny-state government that attempts to tell people how much nicotine they can have in their cigarettes.

With all due respect to "big government" nanny-staters—and that's the only kind there are—f-ck that sh-t...

4 posted on 07/30/2017 8:48:37 AM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: vooch
"offer different benefits for smokers versus non-smokers."

I'm sure the Left will insist that marijuana smokers receive a special exemption from smoker vs. non-smoker differentiation.
5 posted on 07/30/2017 8:49:08 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: Drango

The level of arrogance inherent in this approach is off the charts.


6 posted on 07/30/2017 8:53:23 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Drango
Does anyone remember the Tobacco Lawsuit by democrats in the 90s by the Klinton administration? It was supposed to fund health care for a life time, especially for the children. It almost made it an obligation to smoke because it FUNDED healthcare.

Or maybe it was all just a lie.

7 posted on 07/30/2017 8:54:12 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Drango
What to do when all of these people quit smoking and paying all those taxes?!!! Unintended consequences....

PS: I quit seven years ago! No more cigarette tax money from me.

8 posted on 07/30/2017 8:55:22 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: vooch
When a smoker has to pay 5 times more for health insurance versus a non-smoker, that might change behavior quicker than any gov’t “plan”

True dat. But many poor people DON'T pay for their medical care. They mooch off medicaid. But the iron law of supply and demand will work.

9 posted on 07/30/2017 8:56:32 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: indthkr

How about smoking pot..these people are fools...To me tobacco is better than pot...some pot users go on to other drugs..

If you smoke what ever or drink whatever..it is your business

but I should not have to pay for your problems..

Send the dam healthcare back to the states..


10 posted on 07/30/2017 8:56:46 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Drango
The Congressional Budget Office has recommended an increase of fifty cents per site visited on the internet! An additional fifty cents per word typed on the internet!

YES!

11 posted on 07/30/2017 8:56:53 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Drango

This is government overreach and intrusion. It is a short step until they start telling you what food you can eat

This is nuts


12 posted on 07/30/2017 8:59:06 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Drango

Less nicotine. So 1 pack a day smokers go to 2 or 3 packs per day. Brilliant.


13 posted on 07/30/2017 8:59:27 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (It's gonna be bloody.)
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To: Drango

Unmentioned in the article but noteworthy:

-The number of teenage girls that have taken up smoking, not because the like it, but because it helps them stay thin!

- The number of women that have children as a profit center (ie - welfare) that take up smoking because of all the government advertisement that says smoking will cause them to “have smaller babies.” Extensively studied in England and reported on by the English media. Completely silent in the US media. I am shocked, shocked I tell you.


14 posted on 07/30/2017 9:00:01 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Drango

And when the FDA tells you what you can eat....sugar and salt or red meat etc etc.....will you be as happy?

This is government overreach


15 posted on 07/30/2017 9:00:33 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: sargon

Precisely


16 posted on 07/30/2017 9:01:25 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Drango

They die younger so they don’t deplete social security


17 posted on 07/30/2017 9:01:30 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: vooch

It would have never happened in the first place if we ever had a free market.

Smokers live shorter lives, I can’t believe their costs are higher.

The entire premise of this study is all health care spending for smokers would be saved.


18 posted on 07/30/2017 9:04:06 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

When they, the FDA, won’t allow you to buy certain foods or drinks will you be as happy.

I doubt it. This is communism in its rankest form. You don’t live liberty


19 posted on 07/30/2017 9:04:10 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: uncbob
"They die younger so they don’t deplete social security"

Bingo! Shocking how many anti-smokers here on FR.. HAVE ANOTHER DRINK, FREEPERS! Alcohol, booze, brews, hard liquor.. Drink all you want and die young, it's all cigarettes' fault.

20 posted on 07/30/2017 9:07:09 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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