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Go Ahead And Cheer The Fraud (Healthcare Bill)
Market-Ticker ^ | May 4, 2017 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 05/04/2017 12:40:25 PM PDT by Wolfie

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To: SubMareener

“concern trolls” my azz. What B S. Everyone should be concerned about all this.

“concern trolls” doesn’t mean lack of support for the President.


21 posted on 05/04/2017 12:54:06 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: wny

Yup. Near as I can tell all this does is get the albatross off the Democrats neck, and now the GOP will own all of the vitriol coming from everything that goes wrong with healthcare. Brilliant.


22 posted on 05/04/2017 12:55:33 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2banana

He was hardly a huge pro-Obama supporter. He did vote for Obama to speed up the decline in 2008, but that is hardly huge pro Obama. Yes, he is a perma bear but he was right in 2008-2009 and he is right on healthcare. Healthcare costs in the US have been going up 8-10% annually since 1960.


23 posted on 05/04/2017 12:56:57 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: chris37

Post of the day. So many disgruntled freepers who can’t accept that some things take more time than hoped for. FGS stop sounding like liberals.


24 posted on 05/04/2017 12:59:11 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: bert

Actually he is exactly right and you are arguing a straw man. If I want a repair on a car or my house, I can get written quotes from dozens of people in a couple of hours. Want a quote for a hip replacement or MRI? Not possible. Pricing transparency is one of, if not the, the key reasons why capitalism works.


25 posted on 05/04/2017 12:59:30 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I don’t know how I feel about this bill yet, I STILL think government is to involved BUT now these BASTARDS have to also live under this bill they are NO LONGER EXEMPT so that IS a step in the right direction!!! I am SICK TO DEATH of these BASTARDS telling us how to live and EXEMPTING themselves from EVERYTHING including our laws and paying their taxes!!!


26 posted on 05/04/2017 1:01:07 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Wolfie

Why are stupid people allowed to write articles? Is this country to be governed by extremes on the left or the right? Is this a country of diverse people or a country of purists on either side?


27 posted on 05/04/2017 1:02:41 PM PDT by entropy12 (Read my profile for how to really reduce healthcare costs & improve quality.)
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To: Wolfie

I still don’t understand why a person cannot buy let’s say $10K worth of insurance for some number, let’s say $143 a month = $1716 a year. There is a $2500 deductible within any year. The insurance can be applied to any damned procedure you want or need, including dentistry. Routine visits have to be paid out of pocket.

As for pre-existing conditions, that can’t be called insurance. Every no-pre insured could be asked to pay $20 a month ($240/year) for the pre-existing fund and I think most would go along with that. But regular insureds are being asked to pay enormous deductibles and mortgage-level monthly payments and it has warped the whole system.


28 posted on 05/04/2017 1:05:54 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: lilypad

Sure. Step one. Lol.
They’ll be sure to hit it with phase 2 right before midterms./s.
They’ll spike the ball and never come back.


29 posted on 05/04/2017 1:07:12 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

What do you think insurance companies withdrawing from state exchanges results in? In time, single payer. In some places, I believe it’s essentially that now.

This bill will help make things better for the insurance companies and the public.

It will cause an influx of insurance providers.

That’s the exact opposite of moving to single payer.


30 posted on 05/04/2017 1:07:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: rb22982

“I will vote for Senator Obama tomorrow and strongly urge you vote for him too” or some such

Karl “The Weasel” Denninger

And if you bring that up on his blog he will immediately ban you.


31 posted on 05/04/2017 1:08:09 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: TexasGator

It’s anti-trust law.

It’s been the law of the land since the great depression.

And saying you can’t price the product differently to different customers without a cost justification, is not the same as government setting prices.


32 posted on 05/04/2017 1:08:11 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Problem is Georgia Girl that people (including people on this site) feel that they are ENTITLED to be covered for pre exsisting conditions AND not have to pay more!!! MANY conservatives are SCREAMING to do away with this bill HOWEVER don’t seem to mind the government HAVING TO PAY with subsidies for their pre exsisting conditions!! OBAMMIE opened Pandoras Box and NOW we can’t close it!!! I have read a lot of comments from conservatives on this site that have STUNNED me and because of this WE WILL NEVER be rid of OCARE entirely!!! People want it GONE but NOT REALLY if it affects THEM in ANY WAY!!!!!


33 posted on 05/04/2017 1:08:49 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Wolfie
Ahh, the fragrance of #NeverTrump bitterness is in the air.

How excellent for the President to achieve this legislative victory—a baby step in the right direction on health care—the beginning of a long process, but one which will ultimately be a big WIN for both the President and the American People.

To see Trump Derangement Syndrome bitterly manifesting itself is quite shameful.

People will continue to underestimate this President's passion, skill, and will to win on health care. Mark my words. President Trump doesn't do "window-dressing"; he works towards pragmatic, positive solutions which will help make America great again...

34 posted on 05/04/2017 1:08:53 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: TexasGator

Or do you actually think it’s a good thing that large insurance companies enter contracts with providers that force the provider to charge uninsured people 4 times what they charge the insurance company?

Because that’s exactly what those 70% off standard price contracts do. They force the provider to create a huge price differential where you are screwed if you didn’t sign up with the big insurance company.


35 posted on 05/04/2017 1:11:24 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: 2banana

yes, to speed up the decline and McCain was terrible. You can’t take one half a sentence out of context and negate everything he says afterwards. He is very heavy with the ban hammer in general. It’s the only thing I don’t like, but he is right significantly more often than wrong and he’s dead right about healthcare on the probably 100x+ he’s posted about it.


36 posted on 05/04/2017 1:11:31 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: sargon

Karl isn’t part of the TDS squad. He thinks all of Washington, including Trump, McCain, Pelosi, are the problem.


37 posted on 05/04/2017 1:12:28 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Wolfie; newgeezer

Remember when you could watch a Sunday morning news show or a football game and not see 10 minutes worth of ads for the latest cure all drugs every hour? I miss those days. Just sit back and marvel at the names they are coming up with for these drugs. We’ve really let the cat out of the bag on all things health care related.


38 posted on 05/04/2017 1:12:58 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Love your neighbor as you love yourself.)
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To: DannyTN

Wouldn’t that be the same as saying that all 1200 square foot apartments must charge the same rent everywhere, be it in San Francisco, New York, or BFE, Alabama?


39 posted on 05/04/2017 1:13:06 PM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: Wolfie

MANY changes will completely end the Obamacare disaster....groups getting together to insure low premiums...G.M. workers pay low premiums because there are millions of them....an independent group can do the same....teachers unions have low rates, cover pre-existing conditions, because they, as a group, negotiate terms and conditions....individual GROUPS will be able to do the same.


40 posted on 05/04/2017 1:17:00 PM PDT by terycarl (s)
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