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Go Ahead And Cheer The Fraud (Healthcare Bill)
Market-Ticker ^ | May 4, 2017 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 05/04/2017 12:40:25 PM PDT by Wolfie

Go Ahead And Cheer The Fraud

The lies are ridiculous.

"Obamacare" has not been repealed, nor replaced.

Deductibles and premiums will not come down, because exactly nothing has been done to address the underlying cost of medical care, and that is, of course, what drives the cost of "health insurance."

It also probably won't pass the Senate, so that The House has done so is immaterial.

But heh, go ahead and take a victory lap Mr. Trump for something that hasn't passed the Senate yet, and by the way, may I remind you that the Executive, which you head, can cut the cost of medical care by 80% or more in an afternoon.

You simply need to enforce the law, 15 USC specifically, which is your ******ned job and which you took an oath to do -- and have, since your inauguration, serially and intentionally violated every single day since.

There is not one place in this country where a gas station that refused to tell you how much the gas cost until after you pumped it and disclosed who you had your car insurance through, then charged a price that was 1,000% or more different between different people based on their insurance company and the make and model of the car would be in business for more than 30 minutes. If any material percentage of gas stations in a town or region (that's known as "market power") got together and decided to do this sort of thing in concert they would all be under arrest and indicted for conspiring to restrain trade, fix prices and force tied sales, all of which are illegal under laws that have stood for more than 100 years.

You and the rest of the profane thieves in Washington DC, along with the State Houses of this nation, are thugs and co-conspirators with those who financially******this nation's people on a daily basis.

You deserve spit on your shoes and the middle finger in your face.

So go ahead and make speeches in front of the microphone. I know good and damn well why you won't enforce the law -- if you did the economy would correct in the short term by 15%. Yes, it would rapidly be reallocated to other places but until it did, which would take anywhere from a few months to a couple of years, the GDP decline would be real and none of you crooks can have that -- can you?

Well, enjoy the cheering Mr. President, because the math says that in 4 years you're going to try to blow another $600 billion a year on Medicare and Medicaid because you won't collapse the cost of the medical scams, and that amount will be going up every single year at an exponential rate. The next year it'll be close to $800 billion, and so on. You know damn well you can't finance that and you're not going to get out of office before it blows up in your face, unlike Obama was able to.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: denninger; healthcare; ticker; trumpcare; trumpcarevote
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1 posted on 05/04/2017 12:40:25 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

YAWN


2 posted on 05/04/2017 12:42:45 PM PDT by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!)
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To: Wolfie

this will different, but just as bad as ocare. and the pubbies will own it


3 posted on 05/04/2017 12:45:05 PM PDT by wny
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To: Wolfie
"There is not one place in this country where a gas station that refused to tell you how much the gas cost until after you pumped it and disclosed who you had your car insurance through, then charged a price that was 1,000% or more different between different people based on their insurance company and the make and model of the car would be in business for more than 30 minutes. If any material percentage of gas stations in a town or region (that's known as "market power") got together and decided to do this sort of thing in concert they would all be under arrest and indicted for conspiring to restrain trade, fix prices and force tied sales, all of which are illegal under laws that have stood for more than 100 years."

Actually they made healthcare immune to these laws when they passed legislation on the HMO's. They allowed different pricing so that the HMO's could negotiate and reduce costs. The problem is that the approach the HMO's used initially was 70% and 80% off standard price contracts. So providers simply raised their prices 4X so that they could get the price they needed. That's why there are large differentials in pricing.

But it's a good point. They need to undo that legislation and make it illegal to price the same procedure differently.

4 posted on 05/04/2017 12:46:18 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: wny

This is only step one. Gotta start somewhere.


5 posted on 05/04/2017 12:46:31 PM PDT by lilypad
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To: Wolfie

Karl Denninger was a huge pro Obama supporter in 2008.

He is Mr Doom and Gloom who yearly threatens to stop posting on his blog but never does.

That is all you really need to know.


6 posted on 05/04/2017 12:46:33 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Wolfie
Oh Noes! TID! Trump is done!


Note: TID Kitty is now a full-grown Tom Cat, but we are keeping his baby pictures because they still think they will get Donald Trump one of these days! ;-)
7 posted on 05/04/2017 12:47:59 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Wolfie

useless rant

if the source has no material description of the bill and points of disagreement with a particular part, then the mere rant is a waste of time


8 posted on 05/04/2017 12:48:20 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wolfie

heh, heh.

We’re damned lucky to have even gotten a stab at the 2017 budget, dorkie. Trump’s budget begins this year, dorkie.

Follow the bouncing ball into 2018, muffie.

We have only nudged the ball forward with this delayed 2017 bill.


9 posted on 05/04/2017 12:48:44 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: lilypad

Yep! But Obamacare is really a welfare program so I doubt it will actually ever really completely go away!


10 posted on 05/04/2017 12:49:23 PM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: DannyTN

“make it illegal to price the same procedure differently. “

Yeah! Government mandated price control!


11 posted on 05/04/2017 12:49:43 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Wolfie

The best thing is get the damned government out of the business of business, period..................


12 posted on 05/04/2017 12:50:02 PM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To: Wolfie

The best part of this is medical savings. That encourages people not to run to the doctor every time they get the sniffles. Other things will help like group purchasing of drugs other items can be added in the senate or later.


13 posted on 05/04/2017 12:50:06 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Wuli

” then the mere rant is a waste of time”

Wasted my time ...


14 posted on 05/04/2017 12:50:41 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: wny

WOW!!!! You seem to have inside info. Why not share it along with your sources so we will all know?


15 posted on 05/04/2017 12:51:08 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: Wolfie

Heading toward single payer. Don’t shoot me I’m just the prophet. :-)


16 posted on 05/04/2017 12:51:22 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Wolfie

Some of the meat of HR1628 found here:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1628

This is a start and there is a LOT of work to go.


17 posted on 05/04/2017 12:52:20 PM PDT by Freemeorkillme
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To: Wolfie

drivel

health care is not measured in gallons and a unit price doesn’t exist

not to mention there are many different unit prices based on location and the time of the year

the author is basically ignorant purveyor of fake news

he is guilty of malpropagandaism


18 posted on 05/04/2017 12:52:21 PM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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To: Wolfie

It doesn’t have to be perfect to start the process in motion.

If it did have to be perfect, then this process would obviously never start, because it would never get out of the house.

So quit your bitching and let’s see where it goes from here.


19 posted on 05/04/2017 12:52:27 PM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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Reuters is calling this bill a win for Trump.

U.S. House passes healthcare bill in big win for Trump
5/4/2017, 11:49:08 AM · by mdittmar · 46 replies
reuters ^ | May 4, 2017 | David Morgan and Yasmeen Abutaleb

The U.S. House of Representatives approved a bill on Thursday to repeal major parts of Obamacare and replace it with a Republican healthcare plan, handing President Donald Trump his biggest legislative victory but setting up a tough fight in the Senate. With the 217-213 vote, Republicans obtained just enough support to push the legislation through the House, sending it to the Senate for consideration. No Democrats voted for the bill.

The bill’s passage represented a vital step toward fulfilling a top Trump campaign pledge and a seven-year Republican quest to dismantle Democratic former President Barack Obama’s signature healthcare law.

Attn: Trump haters, you can vote for Illiarily again in 2020. She will be running again.

For the rest of us, le Deplorables, please note my tagline.


20 posted on 05/04/2017 12:53:36 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (100+ days without Hilliarly as POTUS! Thank you, President Trump for this reality!)
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