Posted on 03/07/2017 4:29:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson
We voted you in, gave you the majority in the House, the majority in Senate, delivered the presidency and soon the judiciary. You have been given a mandate to repeal ObamaCare in every election cycle since 2010. Do your job! Do not betray us!
No more excuses!
Screw the democrats and their unconstitutional socialist entitlement schemes! We did not vote you in to deliver ObamaCare-lite! Repeal every word of this unconstitutional boondoggle!! No more government entitlements!!
The constitution clearly reserves health care to the states and the people. Feds stay OUT!!
Do the job you were elected to do! Repeal ObamaCare NOW or get the hell OUT!!
VERY interesting.
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60 seats will always be a good excuse.
If they got 60 seats in 2018, they would come up with another one.
They are simply the attendants of Fedzilla and do what is good for Fedzilla, citizens be damned.
Exactly.
The purpose of replace is to preserve the structure of giving power to Fedzilla.
They never really wanted to repeal it.
I have a question for everybody, didn’t want to post it as a vanity. My question is this:
Given that Congress has agreed to pay some medical bills, without limit, and has imposed on providers the obligation to provide free care in some instances (care for people without the ability or intention to pay for it), and given that these payments and uncompensated care now add up to between 60-80% of all expenditures - why does Ryancare create such a large role for “insurance” companies?
I put “insurance” in scare quotes because you can’t rate and write insurance for certainties. Pregnant women are going to go into labor (for example). People eventually get sick and go to the doctor - etc, etc.
I believe this is all going to nationalization, probably pretty quickly, but in case the GOP ever actually writes a bill to put on Trump’s desk that is NOT single payer - what’s the argument for multiple payers, each with a slice of the pie, for events that, unlike car accidents and house fires occur inevitably (in a lifetime)?
Agreed.
We need to look beyond political demands on principle, and look at the practical consequences for the people. Sometimes I swear conservatives can sound as whiny as (soi-disant, illiberal) liberals.
Like a critter that spent most if not all its life in a cage, it would not know what to do with the wild.
Lazarus, resurrected from the grave by a compassionate Jesus, needed to be unwrapped yet. This has to happen. An evolving effort is a lot better than an all-or-nothing that brings us a perpetual impasse. I want SOMETHING better than Obamacare, in time for this coming tax season even though it’s too late for this one.
>> Bump if you agree.
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The people have long forgotten what any other power would look like.
This needs to be gradual. That’s where the political climate is headed anyhow.
Let us start by thanking God that Obamacare does not need to get any WORSE, and then start looking at how we can make it BETTER.
Sometimes I swear doctrinaire (rather than practical) conservatives can whine as shortsightedly as their lefty counterparts.
It will never be repealed.
It will be endlessly tinkered with.
Jim, I have said many times and even been banned from this site for saying (quoting actually) .... Candidate Trump and now President Trump, supports the federal government take over of health care.
Even if Congress does repeal Obamacare, President Trump will simply replace it with Trumpcare. Neither is appropriate nor authorized under the constitution.
REPEAL IT NOW!!!!!!!
Well, I much prefer this discussion about how to limit federal involvement than the one we’d be having trying to stop single payer commiecare, amnesty, open-borders, unlimited refugees, globalism, globull warming, wall-to-wall liberal activist courts, EPA bankrupting coal, gas & oil, and all the other communist crap we’d be fighting had Hillary been allowed to win. Thanks.
REPEAL IT! Period.
Call Congress: (202) 224-3121.
If the bill is improved to the point that the Freedom Caucus is on board, won't that imply that the legislation is somewhat more acceptable.
After all, without the support of the historically steadfast House Freedom Caucus, as well as stalwarts in the Senate like Ted Cruz, Ron Paul, and maybe one or two others, this bill will not pass.
So I'm asking you that if the HFC ends up voting "aye", will you take that at a positive sign? Or will you instead conclude that they sold us down the river, along with the President and the rest of the Legislature?
Just wondering what kind of developments might indicate that the bill has indeed undergone sufficiently positive change.
I mean, let's be realistic here: are the "hyper-purists" ever going to get what they want out of this process?
I just don't know what to expect, at this point, if the Freedom Caucus and Senators like Cruz and Paul get on board...
Federal mandates dictating who and what must be covered, pre-existing conditions, adult children, etc, and subsidies or refundable tax credits are unconstitutional and unsustainable. The changes they’re making may make it safer in the short-term (reelection-wise) for Republicans to vote for it, but in the long-run will continue driving up costs and will eventually bankrupt the insurance industry and or the government (taxpayers)...and the GOP will own the TRUMPcare disaster that follows.
I urge them to vote no on RINOcare. Repeal obamacare with a two year transition period even if they have to change the senate rules to do so and get the feds completely out of the private health care insurance business.
If they can’t repeal it, then they’d best be working to mitigate the disaster as Obamacare and the insurance industry collapses.
The strong and self-reliant will survive. Really sucks when the idiot socialist democrats try to destroy freedom and free markets. It’s not like they weren’t warned. But, of course, this kind of disaster doesn’t bother the democrats a bit when their ultimate goal is to destroy the economy, destroy capitalism, destroy America and make the world ready for global socialism.
The mandates are probably unconstitutional.
I don’t think tax credits are unconstitutional up to the amount a person pays totally in all taxes.
If I pay 40,000 in a few days for tax, and someone sends me 10,000 back, that doesn’t strike me as unconstitutional.
I’d prefer they save a step and simply let me lessen my check by 10,000, but you get the point.
They are saying you can exclude health care costs from your taxes.
Personally, I think all living expenses should be excluded from taxable income. Only family profit should be taxed.
That would quickly get them to looking at a sales only tax. Hahaha
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