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Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower
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Posted on 03/04/2017 3:41:45 AM PST by navysealdad

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To: ReaganGeneration2

To be forthright, not really. I do recall many accusations being hurled by various parties during the closing days of the election. This statement appears to be dated on or around Oct. 31, 2016.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/statements/2016/10/31/statement-from-jake-sullivan-on-new-report-exposing-trumps-secret-line-of-communication-to-russia/

Statement from Jake Sullivan on New Report Exposing Trump’s Secret Line of Communication to Russia

In response to a new report from Slate showing that the Trump Organization has a secret server registered to Trump Tower that has been covertly communicating with Russia, Hillary for America Senior Policy Adviser Jake Sullivan released the following statement Monday:

“This could be the most direct link yet between Donald Trump and Moscow. Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank.

“This secret hotline may be the key to unlocking the mystery of Trump’s ties to Russia. It certainly seems the Trump Organization felt it had something to hide, given that it apparently took steps to conceal the link when it was discovered by journalists.

“This line of communication may help explain Trump’s bizarre adoration of Vladimir Putin and endorsement of so many pro-Kremlin positions throughout this campaign. It raises even more troubling questions in light of Russia’s masterminding of hacking efforts that are clearly intended to hurt Hillary Clinton’s campaign. We can only assume that federal authorities will now explore this direct connection between Trump and Russia as part of their existing probe into Russia’s meddling in our elections.”

This certainly seems to go toward solifying some of the alleged justification for a wiretap of Trump. However, if FISA did not condone it, then it ultimately leaves one imho with the impression of desperation— a hail mary pass, and for naught, since Hillary lost... (sometimes i wonder what were they thinking... did they drink too much of their own kool aid...if they had won, anything could be swept under the carpet later, but no one apparently stood up and asked what would happen if we lose?...yikes...)


261 posted on 03/04/2017 9:53:47 AM PST by SteveH
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To: volunbeer
You don’t accuse the King without absolute proof. Trump knows that

Yep, he knew that in his 20s. And regardless of what the spooks target was, it was at Trumps house, "Trump" towers during the election. Conducting any electronic wiretap surveillance on that venue during that time period you can bet the rent, Obama knew about it. In fact if it happens that Obama denies this while letting others take the fall, could be prove to be very problematic for Obamba.

262 posted on 03/04/2017 9:54:41 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Has Obamba denied this yet?

If not, why not?


This is the stuff of potential criminal indictments. The reaction by team Obama to this will speak volumes. The reality of the FISA courts and the NSA eavesdropping is that it is always accompanied by a paper trail. A big paper trail. The people who actually execute such orders know that it is against the law to destroy the documents and remember, the court itself keeps copies of the orders. Trump now has access to these. All it takes is a whistleblower or two if the documents were destroyed (a felony in and of itself), but a papertrail would still exist with the courts.

The ramifications of this cannot be overstated. Nobody, much less a chess player like Trump, would make such an accusation without the proof in hand. You just don’t drop the equivalent of a twitter nuclear bomb because you woke up and felt like it. This is the most serious revelation to date of the Trump Presidency.

Wikileaks obtained bulk emails either by a person who leaked or through a phishing scam on Podesta. Those were on a private email server.

This on the other hand is the direct wiretapping of an opposition party using the might and power of Federal agencies. There is no equivalency here.


263 posted on 03/04/2017 9:55:26 AM PST by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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To: volunbeer

Yep, great comments. Ditto on the big paper trail.

I’m very confident Trump has substantial evidence. Once he took office, he had the keys to the entire “File cabinet”.


264 posted on 03/04/2017 9:59:37 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: navysealdad

All you folks on FR are so good at getting the story and backing it up with facts. Thanks!


265 posted on 03/04/2017 10:00:16 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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To: existentially_kuffer

“Nothing found” means Team 0dunga didn’t garner any incriminating info. against Trump as a result of the wiretaps.


266 posted on 03/04/2017 10:14:08 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Feminism DESTROYED females)
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To: waus

His twitter feed has a lot of info. I posted a few of his tweets on my social media and the haters don’t believe it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor


267 posted on 03/04/2017 10:18:59 AM PST by HollyB
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To: boycott
From the article in your link.

Keep I mind that the article in your link is dated, January 11, 2017.

Very interesting.

"From the three reports, from the Guardian, Heat Street, and the New York Times, it appears the FBI had concerns about a private server in Trump Tower that was connected to one or two Russian banks. Heat Street describes these concerns as centering on “possible financial and banking offenses.”

...

"A second, more narrow application, apparently not naming Trump, may have been granted five months later; the best the media can say about it, however, is that the server on which the application centers is “possibly” related to the Trump campaign’s “alleged” links to two Russian banks — under circumstances in which the FBI has previously found no “nefarious purpose” in some (undescribed) connection between Trump Tower and at least one Russian bank (whose connection to Putin’s regime is not described)."

268 posted on 03/04/2017 10:20:15 AM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: navysealdad

Impeach and hang the Traitorous bastard.


269 posted on 03/04/2017 10:26:50 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: volunbeer

And it’s not merely one Tweet.....it is 5 of them. Trump knows something was done against him and is naming names.

About damn someone did in DC.


270 posted on 03/04/2017 10:30:37 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Religion and Politics

They had something planned for all of us. Conservatives view government as a neccassary evil. Progressives view government as an opportunity. Imagine how bad their conspiracy must be, if they are willing to go to war with Russia, just to cover it up.


271 posted on 03/04/2017 10:31:29 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

GREAT point about polarizing it and naming it Obamagate. Remember, the term Obamacare was first used by our side as a pejorative and we got it to stick forever.


272 posted on 03/04/2017 10:31:42 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: RegulatorCountry

You are so right. Sad to think that we have to copy them (and the devil himself, Alinsky) but it works. Name them, polarize them, mock them.


273 posted on 03/04/2017 10:33:09 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: HollyB

This story will not go away. This is as big as it gets and many on the left who are wary of government surveillance are going to balk at carrying water on this just like those of us who support Trump.

Unbelievable. The Lt. Col on Fox and Friends this morning was right. This story represents Soviet era espionage and it also represents a real violation of law, ethics, and the modicum of decency that is the hallmark of the American election system and transitions of power. I saw the rumblings and pondered the leaks as all of us did, but again to state the obvious - there is NO WAY that Trump drops this bomb without having the proof on his desk. No way.

This will suck the air out of every news cycle as more and more Americans comprehend what happened. The sitting President, a surrogate of Clinton, used the intelligence apparatus of the United States to wiretap the opposition candidate. This is the kind of crap you expect in third world countries. This also represents a true violation of the trust and authority we give our intelligence services. They are supposed to be apolitical. They are obviously not as we have already seen with the leaks.

I have often lamented the fact that many of us here on FR get carried away with “smoking gun” stories and we overstate the implications and end up disappointed. I try to be pragmatic and have reasonable expectations for news events. This one is entirely different and I believe it is something that the American people will understand and get upset about. The use of the intelligence apparatus for political purposes is something that cannot be explained satisfactorily. The news cycle recently with “Russia hacked” and “Russia influence” makes much more sense now. People in the know on the left knew this was coming - that is why they have been hysterically throwing out all the veiled accusations with not one shred of proof. Those at the top already knew about this and the underlings have carried the message despite having no proof.

The “Russian influence” story may have been about this all along. Were they setting the stage in anticipation of the thermonuclear tweet that Trump dropped this morning? Can you begin to imagine if Bush had wiretapped Obama during the campaign?


274 posted on 03/04/2017 10:34:40 AM PST by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Since Sessions had recused himself, does this mean he CANNOT investigate this incident because it happened during the campaign?


That is a good question. Did he only recuse himself from investigations into Russian tampering? What about POTUS himself (Obama) tampering?


275 posted on 03/04/2017 10:34:55 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: SteveH

Yuge. Needs its own thread. Thanks. My hair is standing on end. We need to stop these bastards. A lot of people went to jail and the president resigned, in Watergate.

How did these a holes think this wouldn’t be found out?


276 posted on 03/04/2017 10:38:12 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: SteveH

Or perhaps “unnamed Obama official granted more credibility by untrustworthy media than sitting president”


O dear Lrd, I’d give a lot for an honest media like that!


277 posted on 03/04/2017 10:39:25 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

If this is true there can only be an independent counsel. You have a sitting President as victim and a former President as the accused. Can’t find anything with more politics than this so any appointee would be recused to include Sessions.


278 posted on 03/04/2017 10:40:08 AM PST by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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To: Yaelle
I'm still monitoring the travel press pool... so far Trump's been having a meeting in the Palm Beach library since 9:30 this morning, and the media doesn't know who's in there with him. 3 hours so far.

A 3 hour gap in time for the press pool who watches his every move is unusual... and why is this meeting at the library and not at Mar a Lago?

279 posted on 03/04/2017 10:43:18 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: volunbeer

Omg. Went and watched the video. Thanks.

Everyone, watch this clip of Lt. Col. Schaefer on fox.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5347683464001/?#sp=show-clips

“Is this a game changer?”

Paraphrasing

“Without any doubt. We are talking about a possible indictment of a former POTUS.”


280 posted on 03/04/2017 10:52:33 AM PST by Yaelle
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