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Psychiatrists Can’t Predict Mass Shootings — Meanwhile, Let the Public Defend Itself
National Review ^ | January 11, 2017 | John R Lott Jr

Posted on 01/11/2017 9:56:34 AM PST by richardb72

Pouring money into mental-health care won’t stop mass public shootings. Unfortunately, psychiatry is far from a perfect science.

There has already been a lot of second-guessing about Esteban Santiago-Ruiz, who killed five people and wounded eight at the Fort Lauderdale–Hollywood International Airport on Friday. Despite extensive psychological evaluations, many psychiatrists had failed to identify Santiago as a danger to others. One of Santiago’s brothers blames the government.

In November 2016, local police escorted Santiago to a psychiatric hospital. Relatives say that after being released, he received further psychological treatment at his home in Alaska. Shouldn’t the experts have picked up on the warning signs?

Identifying someone as mentally ill is a far cry from deciding that the person poses a danger. Psychiatrists themselves have a poor record of knowing who will become violent. But psychiatrists know that they can’t predict the future.

Look at the inability of psychiatrists to identify who will turn out to be a mass public shooter. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; cprc; guncontrol; johnlott; mediabias
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1 posted on 01/11/2017 9:56:34 AM PST by richardb72
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Very good article. Bottom line, there’s no way for psychiatrists to preemptively confine potential killers unless they are willing to detain literally millions of citizens most of them harmless. This can’t be done.

Meanwhile you’ve got to be able to defend yourself and those around you.

Once again, the Second Amendment speaks to our times.


2 posted on 01/11/2017 10:09:33 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (When truth is outlawed, only outlaws have the truth.)
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To: richardb72

If the left could find a few docs that said it could be predicted overnight the MSM would pronounce it settle science.


3 posted on 01/11/2017 10:10:18 AM PST by 556x45
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To: richardb72

“... psychiatry is far from a perfect science. “

Don’t they mean psychiatry is fake science?
Totalitarian governments always like psychiatry, because it allows them to incarcerate people through accusation alone.


4 posted on 01/11/2017 10:18:17 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Declare the entire country to be a psych ward, and you have “solved” the problem, liberal style. Now everyone is mental, all can be treated for various issues under Obamacare, and if anyone goes lone wolf, they just need more counseling and Xanax. Some collateral damage is unavoidable so that the worst cases can be identified and treated first.

Actually, sounds kind of like how it’s being handled already... : \


5 posted on 01/11/2017 10:19:22 AM PST by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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To: richardb72

He had a mental illness all right. Its called ISLAM


6 posted on 01/11/2017 10:22:55 AM PST by usurper
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To: Mrs. Don-o

A general demoralization of a country is also more than we can ever hope to ask the services of psychiatrists or psychologists to ameliorate.

A genuine answer arises from a different direction: the spiritual. A solid sense that God cares.


7 posted on 01/11/2017 10:23:49 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: usurper

The devil you say.

The Islamic Allah is of quite a different temperament than the Jewish Jehovah or the Christian Jesus. The name of that god itself represents a usurpation: before Islam appeared, the Allah term was in widespread use in Arabic translations of Jewish and Christian bibles (yes, history proves this out). Islam stole the name. It would not be the only time in history that a group stole a term and twisted it to mean something that it did not originally mean. Liberal and gay come to mind here.


8 posted on 01/11/2017 10:28:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

AMEN!


9 posted on 01/11/2017 10:30:41 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (When truth is outlawed, only outlaws have the truth.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

AMEN!


10 posted on 01/11/2017 10:30:50 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (When truth is outlawed, only outlaws have the truth.)
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To: usurper
He had a mental illness all right. Its called ISLAM

That is one mental defect we can control.

11 posted on 01/11/2017 10:33:49 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: richardb72

News on the shooter offers a hint:


12 posted on 01/11/2017 10:34:29 AM PST by GOPJ (ObamaCare Motto: "If You Like Your Doctor, Maybe You'll Like Your New Doctor" - Dave Barry)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And, sadly, in a demoralized society, one that God is at best an indifference to, we find a spiritual vacuum that it is easy for deities of distortion to fill.

I don’t know why Jews and Christians should walk on eggs when talking about the Islamic notion of Allah, but maybe they do in part because they have current theological disagreements of their own. But an argument about the structure of divine salvation should take a back seat to one about whether a certain other proposed object of worship is quite clearly about damnation. Even its proposed heaven is sub-spiritual and fleshly, with both Jewish and Christian notions about the glorification of God being quite absent. Whatever the best of mankind is, this Islam doesn’t seem to set it forth at all.


13 posted on 01/11/2017 10:38:46 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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First off let’s get his Name correct! Aashiq Hammad

Second his disease was overt! The Ft. Lauderdale Airport shooter is a Muslim convert who years before joining the U.S. Army took on an Islamic name (Aashiq Hammad), downloaded terrorist propaganda and recorded Islamic religious music online, according to public records dug up by the investigative news site of an award-winning, California journalist.


14 posted on 01/11/2017 10:39:03 AM PST by Harpotoo
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To: bgill

Oh, we might want to THINK we can, but the truth is that this battle is waged on a supernatural level. There are scads of demons defending Islam, and a frontal assault with no appeal to the God recognized by either Jews or Christians will result in a devastating backlash... the arm of flesh will fail.


15 posted on 01/11/2017 10:40:18 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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“Airport Shooter Converted to Islam, Identified as Aashiq Hammad Years Before Joining Army”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2017/01/airport-shooter-converted-islam-identified-aashiq-hammad-years-joining-army/


16 posted on 01/11/2017 10:42:10 AM PST by GOPJ (ObamaCare Motto: "If You Like Your Doctor, Maybe You'll Like Your New Doctor" - Dave Barry)
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To: GOPJ

If what I have been sensing is correct, an era of the glorification of God (Jewish and Christian) is fast approaching. This would be galling to the Islamic Allah, which will attempt to raise forces and mount assaults, but ultimately in vain.

However we need to glorify God to participate in the strength of God through which the kingdom of demonic war will be vanquished and the kingdom of divine peace will be ushered in. I know that jolly well both from the bible and from an all too long time in my life that I spent NOT glorifying God because I was too busy glorifying myself.


17 posted on 01/11/2017 10:49:20 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: richardb72
Psychiatrists themselves have a poor record of knowing who will become violent. But psychiatrists know that they can’t predict the future.

So they sign the release. Their logic escapes me.

Here is an idea; make the doctor who approves release responsible if the guy goes off track. Same penalty.

18 posted on 01/11/2017 10:51:16 AM PST by Rapscallion (The opposite of charity is justice. I favor justice every time.)
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To: Rapscallion

They aren’t police and can’t be police. Nor would anyone want to go to a psychologist or psychiatrist if they were under such a gun. We would jump from the frying pan into the fire.


19 posted on 01/11/2017 10:53:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Rapscallion

And by the way, charity-haters will find lack of charity coming their way sooner or later. Just a warning. You are free to ignore it; you are not free to enjoy an exception to the real consequences. We don’t get to choose divine policy as to preferences.


20 posted on 01/11/2017 10:54:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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