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The New York Times Just Accidentally Debunked the Gun Control Fairy Tale(DOH!)
cnsnews.com ^ | 12/1/2016 | Daniel Mitchell

Posted on 12/01/2016 10:41:47 AM PST by rktman

When I write about gun control, I generally make two arguments.

First, criminals are lawbreakers, so the notion that they will be disarmed because of gun control is a fantasy [1]. Crooks and thugs who really want a gun will always have access [2] to black-market weapons. Second, to the extent that good people obey bad gun-control laws (and hopefully they won’t [3]), that will encourage more criminal activity since bad people will be less worried [4] about armed resistance.

These points are common sense, but they doesn’t seem to convince many leftists, who have a religious-type faith that good intentions will produce good results (they need to read Bastiat [5]!).

Every so often, however, the other side accidentally messes up.

As part of its never-ending, ideologically driven campaign to undermine gun rights, the New York Times ran a big 5,000-plus word story [6] last month about mass shootings. Creating hostility to guns was the obvious goal of this “news” report.

But buried in all that verbiage was a remarkable admission. A big majority of shooters already are in violation of gun laws.

“The New York Times examined all 130 shootings last year in which four or more people were shot, at least one fatally, and investigators identified at least one attacker. … 64 percent of the shootings involved at least one attacker who violated an existing gun law.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist
The nyt. Winning continues. Thanks for the re-affirmation there nyt. Like we didn't already know these facts.
1 posted on 12/01/2016 10:41:47 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Average leftist won’t even notice this admission.

It is nice to see though.


2 posted on 12/01/2016 10:50:35 AM PST by txnativegop (Hey! Libturds! You got Trumped!)
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To: rktman

Progressive, meet Reality. you should get to know it sooner or later.


3 posted on 12/01/2016 10:51:22 AM PST by JusPasenThru (Well...bye.)
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To: rktman
The only time they tell the truth is by accident.

4 posted on 12/01/2016 10:53:35 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: BitWielder1

Editors ain’t what they used to be.


5 posted on 12/01/2016 10:54:33 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: rktman

I live in a town where kids take off school several days in November every year to go hunting. They all shoot. Their dads shoot. Their moms shoot. And they eat what they shoot. Guns are in over 50% of the homes. And there is more than one gun per person including kids. And even though this is slightly below the average living standard, there are virtually no murders. And accidental shooting deaths are very rare. Deer plus Car accidents, snow mobiles, boats, and skiing each cause more deaths each year than guns. And nobody wants to get rid of them.


6 posted on 12/01/2016 10:55:51 AM PST by poinq
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To: rktman

Good stuff!


7 posted on 12/01/2016 11:01:07 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: rktman
64 percent of the shootings involved at least one attacker who violated an existing gun law.

Two possibilities, or combination thereof:

The other 36 percent involved two or morecriminals.

The other 36 percent were charged with the crime of defending themselves.

8 posted on 12/01/2016 11:02:31 AM PST by fruser1
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To: rktman

And 100% of the murderers using a gun (or anything else to kill people!) are criminals.


9 posted on 12/01/2016 11:03:28 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: rktman

No chit.


10 posted on 12/01/2016 11:10:05 AM PST by skimbell
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To: txnativegop

Average leftist won’t even notice this admission.


The average leftist is incapable of understanding the admission, even if they try real, real hard. It’s just too far over their heads.

It would be like a physics professor explaining how “Einstein’s greatest blunder” might not have been a blunder at all... to a class of pre-K 3-year olds.


11 posted on 12/01/2016 11:13:27 AM PST by samtheman (Voted Trump)
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To: rktman

They are not pursing logic. Their desire, of the leadership, is to totally disarm the American people. They don’t care about criminal. Their concern is that an armed citizenry is difficult to force into involuntary servitude. Look at this election. They did not get their way and since we are heavily armed there is nothing they can do about it. If we were not armed we would be looking at armed thugs pretending to be police/military/militia enforcing correct election outcomes. Obama was attempting this with his arming his own private militia, the IRS, the FDA, the Park Service, etc. We are free because we have guns and they don’t like it. The rest of their justification is totally bull shit and they know it.


12 posted on 12/01/2016 11:34:56 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men (people) to come to the aid of their country!)
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Their desire, of the leadership, is to totally disarm the American people.

Correct. That is the dirty secret of the gun-control-freaks. They want you (yes: YOU, personally) to be on your knees before them, utterly dependent and at their 'mercy'.

13 posted on 12/01/2016 11:38:14 AM PST by NorthMountain (Northmountain)
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To: rktman

Another deluded conservative writer who believes the left is misguided or misinformed, or doesn’t understand. Daniel, your are an idiot. The left understands what they are doing. They are perpetuating violence against a hopefully unarmed citizenry so as to finish the utter subjegation of the citizen to the state. If you wish to be safe surrender to the warm embrace of the state. Conservatives who continue to beleive that leftists are just stupid are the true idiots.


14 posted on 12/01/2016 11:59:24 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: poinq

Good, working, law-abiding regular Americans, with guns. No problems. Same all over our land.

Progressives and their lies are a terrible cancer in America. Time for aggressive treatment.


15 posted on 12/01/2016 12:22:05 PM PST by polymuser (There's a big basket of deportables.)
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To: txnativegop

doesnt even blip on the liberal radar.

doesnt matter anyway, facts dont matter to libs. proven countless times.


16 posted on 12/01/2016 12:31:10 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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