Posted on 10/01/2016 5:12:19 PM PDT by rey
At the presidential debate, Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton made all kinds of attacks on each other. But on one notable issue, they were in complete agreement: they both think people on the federal government’s “no fly list” should be categorically denied their right to buy guns under the Second Amendment. Both candidates have repeatedly said so for months. Trump’s stance on this issue should be deeply troubling to those who care about gun rights – and also to people concerned about constitutional rights generally, even if they don’t care much about this one.
As both the ACLU and conservative commentators point out, the no fly list is notoriously inaccurate. It is also provides little or no due process protections. The process is secret, people are not told the reasons why they were placed on the list, and they are not given any advance opportunity to challenge the designation. And, once on the list, even a completely innocent person might find it difficult and time-consuming to get off it.
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I see it as anti-Trump. Several clever pundits have said it several different ways. They are afraid to take a stand so I spit them out of my mouth.
Four of 1500 licenses to carry in NY are issued to Trumps...including Donald. He has been endorsed by the NRA.
Yup, like most libertarians.
And they conveniently left out the fact that Trump said he'd clean up both the no-fly and no-gun purchase lists. Those who'd compile such lists in his admin would be of a far different mindset than those who compile them now. ....or in a Hillary admin.
Patriots vs. national/cultural saboteurs.
Trump has a permit to carry. Name another presidential candidate who has one.
After browsing their entire website, I believe this outfit, Foundation For Economic Education, is a tad bit to the left of center.
Trump made a point of talking about how to get off the list.
This article is bunk.
DONALD J. TRUMP’S VISION
Constitution
Appoint justices to the United States Supreme Court who will uphold our laws and our Constitution. The replacement for Justice Scalia will be a person of similar views and principles who will preserve the very core of our country and make it greater than ever before
o Defend the rule of law and the Constitution of the United States. Nobody is above the law
o Uphold our freedoms, constitutional values and principles that our country was founded on
o Protect our liberty with the highest regard for the Constitution
o Protect and defend freedom of religion, speech, press and right to bear arms.
Donald J. Trump’s list of Potential Supreme Court Justice Picks, here
Second Amendment
o Defend the Second Amendment of our Constitution. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period.
o Nominate United States Supreme Court justices that will abide by the rule of law and the Constitution of the United States that includes upholding the Second Amendment.
o Enforce the laws on the books. We need to get serious about prosecuting violent criminals.
o Expand and bring back programs like Project Exile and get gang members and drug dealers off the street. When we do, crime will go down and our cities and communities will be safer places to live.
o Empower law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves. Law enforcement does a tremendous job, but they can’t be everywhere all of the time.
o Fix our broken mental health system. All of the tragic mass murders that occurred in the past several years have something in common – there were red flags that were ignored. We can’t allow that to continue. We need to expand treatment programs, because most people with mental health problems aren’t violent, they just need help.
o Defend the rights of law-abiding gun owners:o Military bases and recruiting centers - to have a strong military, we need to allow them to defend themselves
o National right to carry – should be legal in all 50 states
o Background checks - we need to fix the system we have and make it work as intended. What we don’t need to do is expand a broken system.
o Gun and magazine bans - the government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own
KEY ISSUES
Constitution
o The next President of the United States could appoint as many as four Supreme Court justices. [CBS News, Jan. 5, 2016]
o Hillary Clinton could remake America by appointing the most liberal Supreme Court threatening our basic rights such as freedom of speech/religion and issuing executive orders to bypass Congress [Newsweek, May 2016]
o Three significant Supreme Court rulings under the Obama Administration:o Obergefell v. Hodges (June 26, 2015) case that legalized same-sex marriage [U.S. Supreme Court]
o National Federation of Independence Business v. Sebelius (June 28, 2012) upholding the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) [U.S. Supreme Court]
o King v. Burwell (June 25, 2015) upholding key provisions (tax subsidies) in the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) [U.S. Supreme Court]
Second Amendment
o The number of privately owned firearms in U.S. increased from about 185 million in 1993 to 357 million in 2013. [AEI, Dec. 4, 2015]
o Adjusted for the U.S. population, the number of guns per American increased from 0.93 per person in 1993 to 1.45 in 2013, which is a 56 percent increase in the number of guns per person that occurred during the same period when gun violence decreased by 49 percent. [AEI, Dec. 4, 2015]
o There were 7 firearm-related homicides for every 100,000 Americans in 1993. By 2013, the gun homicide rate had fallen by nearly 50% to only 3.6 homicides per 100,000 population. [AEI, Dec. 4, 2015]
o According to a Pew Research survey in July 2015, 85% of the public – including large majorities of both Republicans (79%) and Democrats (88%) – favored making private gun sales and sales at gun shows subject to background checks. There was also bipartisan support for laws to prevent people with mental illness from purchasing guns. [Pew Research, Jan. 5, 2016]
CONTRAST WITH HILLARY CLINTON
Constitution
Hillary Clinton would ensure the most liberal Supreme Court in 80 years. In a Washington Times article, Senator Orrin Hatch stated, “The next president’s picks mean the difference between democracy and tyranny”. [Donald J. Trump Press Release]
o Under the Obama-Hillary Administration, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) admitted to targeting hundreds of conservative organizations. Using the federal government to target and silence political opponents. [Washington Post, May 10, 2013]
o Hillary Clinton has proven that she holds no respect for the rule of law and the Constitution of the United States. She lied to the American people and to the FBI regarding the use of her private email server and sending classified information:o Hillary Clinton believes that she is above the law by having a private email server set up in the basement of her home while serving as Secretary of State. She sent classified information, even during her travels overseas, jeopardizing the national security of the American people by allowing her emails to be hacked by foreign intelligence services.
o FBI Director James Comey even stated that Secretary Clinton was “extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information”. [FBI Statement on Hillary’s Personal E-mail Server, July 4, 2016]
o Hillary Clinton would give more authority and power to the federal government while stripping state rights. [The Hill, June 25, 2015]
Second Amendment
o Hillary Clinton will appoint radical Supreme Court justices that will virtually abolish the Second Amendment.
o Hillary Clinton will overturn the Supreme Court ruling that affirmed the Second Amendment as a private right, so that any city or state in this country can ban private gun ownership.
o NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre has framed Hillary Clinton as a fierce opponent to gun rights. He said, “If she could, Hillary would ban every gun, destroy every magazine, run an entire national security industry right into the ground” and put gun-owners’ names on a government registration list. [NBC News, May 20, 2016]
o Hillary Clinton vowed to take on the gun right lobby, vowing to fight the NRA [Washington Post, July 9, 2015]
Nevertrump bullcrap.
Endorsed by the NRA? So was Bush. He supported the assault weapons ban.
“Trump is no conservative...”
Who makes that determination? I do know Trump is a patriot. I’ll take a patriot over a so called conservative any day.
But supposedly both Bushes are.
No worries for the 2A under a Trump Presidency.
The Revolution is ON!
Vote Trump!
Hillary will actively attack the 2nd Amendment. If you can’t figure that out, you’re a liar or an idiot.
Trump and his boys are NRA Lifers and have carry permits. Furthermore, Junior is an avid gun guy. He would not let the old man sabotage the second amendment.
FEE is anti-Trump. Libertarians who seem to prefer hillary.
I don’t care whether they do or not. I know what the Bill of Rights is. I know what the Second Amendment says and what it means. I really don’t shive a git what the politicians and their turds on the SCOTUS and Federal Courts say. To me, they’re all America and freedom hating idiots.
Harry Reid has been endorsed by the NRA.
Quote:
“Libertarians who seem to prefer hillary.”
No “libertarian” could possibly endorse Hillary. But they, “Republicans,” and “conservatives,” as we have seen, do.
I’m going with the patriots and Trump.
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