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BREAKING: Tulsa police officer Betty Shelby charged with 1st degree manslaughter
KTUL ^ | September 22, 2016 | Staff

Posted on 09/22/2016 1:46:01 PM PDT by Trump20162020

Tulsa County DA: Charges of manslaughter in 1st degree will be filed against Officer Betty Shelby.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: bettyshelby; cops; crutcher; leo; oklahoma; police; terencecrutcher; tulsa; tulsashooting
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To: RegulatorCountry

How did the cops know he wasn’t reaching for an automatic weapon? I agree however they should have shot to disable him.


101 posted on 09/22/2016 2:20:05 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: jjsheridan5

The police have no idea what limitations they may be facing in the person they’re dealing with. The guy could have been deaf, or disoriented for some unknown reason beyond his control. This wasn’t a case where a cop pursuing a suspect alone had to deal with someone in a darkened hallway, or a perp wrestling for her gun.


102 posted on 09/22/2016 2:20:51 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: TheTimeOfMan
This article is part of the story. There are two sides and the video as well as her testimony mean she'll be exonerated and charges dismissed. I'm not a betting man but that's my gut reaction based on what I'm seeing.
103 posted on 09/22/2016 2:21:22 PM PDT by Frapster
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
She may or may not be guilty of a crime, but it looks like there’s enough evidence to warrant a process to find out.

I think this sums it up perfectly.

104 posted on 09/22/2016 2:21:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: PghBaldy

She shot a passive man who was no threat and already tasered.

Betty said he was reaching into his car. He was tasered upon suspected “movement”. He starts to buckle and she kills him for reacting to the taser.

Funny thing— he couldn’t reach into his car. The windows were rolled up.

I think she should have said accidental discharge, but... that’s still manslaughter.


105 posted on 09/22/2016 2:21:39 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education is the farm team for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: Starboard

‘Shoot to disable’?

You must be kidding. Please tell us you’re kidding.


106 posted on 09/22/2016 2:21:55 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity
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To: CivilWarBrewing
...OBEY COP'S COMMANDS. This is THE problem!...

You put your finger on the crux of it. If you ignore a cop's orders, and/or resist arrest, you increase your chance of first, getting beaten up, and second, getting shot. Statistics prove that police shoot whites every bit as readily as blacks if they don't cooperate and are perceived as a threat.

107 posted on 09/22/2016 2:22:51 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: Paradox
He was CLEARLY reaching (which could even be perceived reaching into his pants or inside waistband) for something or trying to unlock his door but no way were both his hands up. I'm into TRUTH not media lies to foment national unrest and the black vote for Hillary.

I'm tired of people LYING. Tired of it.

108 posted on 09/22/2016 2:23:07 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: AmusedBystander

“As a side note, why did she go for a kill shot?”

There is no such thing as a “kill shot.” There are only shots. They land somewhere between where you aim and where you hit. Unlimited factors can effect shot placement including adrenaline, breathing, angle, hand placement, level of experience, etc.... However, if you have decided to use Deadly Force then you are attempting to kill. Period. If you incapacitate the Subject and he still breathes, then that is just a bonus.

Apologies, the “why not just wound the Subject” argument is a pet peeve of mine.

And warning shots or “shooting in the air” is illegal or, at a minimum, against policy in most, if not all, departments - local, state, and federal.


109 posted on 09/22/2016 2:23:38 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: RitaOK

There’s such a term as ‘passive aggressive’. When you’re not complying you’re a threat. When you begin reaching and acting erratically you’re a thread. I think she made a hard choice. Me - I just have to decide whether to spend $2,000 on remarketing or paid social advertising.


110 posted on 09/22/2016 2:23:46 PM PDT by Frapster
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To: Alberta's Child

Agreed.


111 posted on 09/22/2016 2:24:17 PM PDT by Frapster
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To: RegulatorCountry

Your interpretation is mine as well.


112 posted on 09/22/2016 2:24:18 PM PDT by Theo (FReeping since 1998 ... I am voting for Trump. #NeverHillary)
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To: Starboard

I agree however they should have shot to disable him.....The Lone Ranger totally agrees with you.


113 posted on 09/22/2016 2:24:24 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: chris37

It seems we had a rash of that a few years ago. Bad shots of dogs and men.


114 posted on 09/22/2016 2:24:26 PM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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To: Noamie

“...or you use traditional compliance techniques that were in effect for the past 10,000 years - before the other two existed.”

And on our next episode of...Jurassic Cop... :)


115 posted on 09/22/2016 2:25:00 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Paradox
Ooops sorry. Here's the link. Also watch there is one birds-eye view which clearly shows his hands are NOT up:

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/09/21/tulsa-shooting-terence-crutcher-cabrera-dnt-nr.cnn/video/playlists/terence-crutcher-shooting/

Oh yeah and he was WHACKED ON PCP.

116 posted on 09/22/2016 2:25:38 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Why aren’t you tired of the unqualified choking up?


117 posted on 09/22/2016 2:26:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: LouieFisk

If it wasn’t based on evidence she’ll be vindicated (and the malcontents will have to concede the nanny-state tried to give them “justice”).


118 posted on 09/22/2016 2:26:53 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

“I watched the ground level video of this incident AND AS USUAL, I SAW A BLACK MALE TRYING TO GET INTO HIS VEHICLE RATHER THAN FREEZE AND OBEY COMMANDS. The media narrative was that his ‘hands were in the air’.. BULLSH*T. He was trying to open his window or enter the vehicle AFTER being told to stop and that is why he was shot.”

That’s how I saw it too.


119 posted on 09/22/2016 2:27:21 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: VaeVictis

I’d bet this is a PC bs charge for appeasement.

So she’s been overcharged.
means she’ll probably walk.


120 posted on 09/22/2016 2:27:57 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.)
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