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If Trump Is Nominee.... [my opus]
Self | 5/01/05 | Calpublican

Posted on 05/01/2016 4:50:43 PM PDT by Calpublican

As a 5th generation Republican and Lifelong Conservative the political events of recent years have been frustrating. None are more frustrating than this election cycle.

We prayed and hoped for a real Conservative to counter the leftward pull of Obama. We wanted someone to pull the country to the right so we could possibly be, at least, center America, where we typically like to land in national politics.

We have had several Conservative candidates this cycle, but many who have called themselves "Conservative" have coalesced behind a man who is the farthest thing from Conservative as is imaginable and why? Because of FEAR.

Fear of the other, fear of violence, fear of immigrants. These are valid fears, but when fear turns to hate judgement is clouded. That is what has happened. Instead of standing by principles, "Conservatives" have been drawn to hateful rhetoric. Even after Trump has disavowed his own rhetoric to the NYT& others, the seed has been planted. If one wonders how despots rise to power, this is how. Exactly.

Trump's positions are all Liberal/Leftwing, some experts speculate Neo- Proto- or Ur-Fascist as well . He did not magically become Conservative and he has given ample evidence of this---repeatedly. But the fearful will not or cannot hear it.

If Trump is the nominee which Liberal will I choose? I choose Hillary and will, for the first time in my life, vote for a Democrat for president. Why? Because if Trump wins, pretending to be Conservative, he will destroy Conservatism for 20 yrs. He is not pulling down-ticket Conservatives so his administration would be Liberal to the max.

It is a difficult choice but I am absolutely convinced it is the correct choice. If I have to vote Liberal, I vote strategically Liberal.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: calpublican; clinton; cruzersforhillary; election; fascism; hillary; kamalaharris; kissthering; nominee; oprah; opus; sanders; trump; vanity; wellbye; wellbyethen; worstopusever; zot
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To: GingisK

The message of the person making this original post is something that thousands of people are going through right now. It’s a form of mourning. Many people have volunteered for Republican presidential campaigns for the last 20 years.

They never thought they’d have to vote for someone as vulgar as Trump, a person who has spent much of his lifetime supporting the worst characters that Republican volunteers have fought so hard against.

It’s a feeling of losing something you’ve fought your whole life for. And yet, it’s happened so it must be accepted.

It will be up to Trump to bring these people along if he is to have any hope of winning at all.

His supporters can help too and the best way to help Trump is probably not to hurl 100 insults at anyone who says they are having trouble accepting that the party they have volunteered for their whole life is no longer going to be what it was.

In the end it will be up to Trump and his supporters to unify the party. From low energy Jeb to Lying Ted to Little Marco to Disgusting Kasich, it’s been a campaign of insults and his supporters have laughed along.

Well now you need to get these people and their supporters back. It won’t be easy but it’s possible, but probably hurling 100 insults at everyone who is disappointed or afraid, or mourning or just disgusted by what they’re going to have to do is probably not helping the party or Trump. How about being nicer people for a while. Stop the insults and start the long effort to bring these people you’ve insulted back into the fold.


221 posted on 05/01/2016 6:47:49 PM PDT by Beernoser
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To: Calpublican

Don’t call me, or us, fearful because we won’t buy your snake oil.

I went toe-to-toe with the Oval Office once - and forfeited my career, I’ll do it again.

I fear no man nor group of men and I’ll be hard pressed to find anyone on FR who will either.

Good day.


222 posted on 05/01/2016 6:48:35 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: DenverCossack

LOL


223 posted on 05/01/2016 6:48:52 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Calpublican

“We have had several Conservative candidates this cycle, but many who have called themselves “Conservative” have coalesced behind a man who is the farthest thing from Conservative as is imaginable and why? “

You’re just plain WRONG. Trump isn’t perfect, no candidate is. “The farthest thing from Conservative” HA, try Kasich.

“Because of FEAR. “

Fear will save your life, panic will get you killed.

Don’t panic.


224 posted on 05/01/2016 6:50:58 PM PDT by JPJones ( You can't help the working class by paying the non-working class.)
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To: Beernoser
Many people have volunteered for Republican presidential campaigns for the last 20 years.

Maybe the "polite" Republican is the problem. That is how we got here.

225 posted on 05/01/2016 6:51:00 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Calpublican
"some experts speculate Neo- Proto- or Ur-Fascist as well"

No way! - some experts speculate?

226 posted on 05/01/2016 6:53:12 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: Calpublican

Trump is the closest thing you can get to a Republican conservative that can win nationally (and he’s far from a certain winner). Roll the dice. If you prefer 0% to 40%, then so be it.


227 posted on 05/01/2016 6:53:32 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Calpublican

It just reads like “WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH! “


228 posted on 05/01/2016 6:54:47 PM PDT by uncitizen (PST! Patriots Support Trump - Join Today!)
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To: Calpublican

We will win without you, and rest assured we will WIN.


229 posted on 05/01/2016 6:55:53 PM PDT by sailor76 (GO TRUMP!!! Make America Great Again!)
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To: Calpublican

Strange times we live in, indeed.


230 posted on 05/01/2016 6:56:06 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Beernoser

“Trump, a person who has spent much of his lifetime supporting the worst characters that Republican volunteers have fought so hard against.”

Please be honest. Let’s start with honesty. Trump has done much more good in his lifetime than supporting Dem and Rep shysters. You write as if that’s the ONLY thing Trump has done.

Come on.

BTW - it’s not about feelings. Trump is probably a proud jerk who wants it his way. Who cares? If he’s going to do great things for the Country, then fine. Let him be a jerk!


231 posted on 05/01/2016 6:57:39 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: going hot
***clapping *****😊
232 posted on 05/01/2016 6:58:50 PM PDT by gibsosa
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To: Calpublican

The Branch Cruzadians are missing the biggest political upheaval in US history. At least since Lincoln was nominated and they are clueless - still. They are on the wrong side of history because “Movement” conservatives are ok with the globalist agenda as long as they are making money selling out the USA.


233 posted on 05/01/2016 7:00:14 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Beernoser

Ahem.... your “friends” have a problem with the Hoi polloi and so.... it is that your friends are the problem. They like the trappings of being “conservative” and no nothing about classical liberalism. They are crooks. They cheat lie and steal. They want cheap labor. They want cheap goods. They could give a frig about America. They want an easy life but make everyone else’s life miserable. Damn you, damn Cruz, damn the Clinton cabal, damn the Senate, damn Soros, damn the EU, damn Face-assbook and a hell of a lot more to hell.


234 posted on 05/01/2016 7:00:46 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: Beernoser
"someone as vulgar as Trump" The Beverly Hillbillies photo: The Beverly Hillbillies-1962 cid_58410D2D85EA4153AA4310FD0718930.jpg "Mizz Drysdale. Go away." Jedediah Clampett
235 posted on 05/01/2016 7:01:32 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: sailor76

The Vichy Rinos will be purged.


236 posted on 05/01/2016 7:01:49 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Calpublican

You’re an idiot.


237 posted on 05/01/2016 7:02:12 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Calpublican

You wasted an opus and got the zot! Why waste your time telling us why when you could still remain as a lurker but without the courage.


238 posted on 05/01/2016 7:03:29 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: Beernoser

Good post.
I understand the angst of losing a primary, but voting for Hillary is voting for “Death to America”.
There will be some GOPers who will do that.
My gut tells me they will be more than offset by Trump Democrats and new voters who had given up on voting.
The flame wars were always counterproductive, but inevitable when tempers flare and tension is high.
I lurked through 2008 and 2012 and the opuses and purges that followed.
Pissant was right with his support of Duncan Hunter, but got deranged when he lost and was zotted.
Some good freepers opused out because Romney was a liberal too far.
There are quite a few among the Cruz supporters I hope we don’t lose, the ones zotted so far have actually improved the place, IMHO.


239 posted on 05/01/2016 7:05:59 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: papertyger

YES!


240 posted on 05/01/2016 7:06:26 PM PDT by gibsosa
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