Posted on 04/23/2016 1:02:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, ensure domestic Tranquillity, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this constitution for the United State of America."
Securing the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity is our mission on FR.
We cannot secure the blessings of liberty with Hillary in the White House.
When Trump wins the lion's share of the primary votes, states and delegates and the establishment installs someone else as the candidate, you've handed the election to Hillary.
Trump is the only anti-establishment candidate in the race and has won the lion's share of votes, states and delegates and is on track to continue amassing the lion's share of the votes, states and delegates by direct vote of the people.
We the People have voted and are voting to finally wrest control of our government from the entrenched corrupt establishment, aka, the uni-Party.
Cruz, Kasich, et al are mathematically eliminated and cannot win the nomination per the voters. They can attempt to re-wrest the nomination away from Trump and away from We the People only by corrupt establishment treachery at the convention. And that will split and destroy the party and guarantee a Hillary win.
NeverTrump is a losing proposition and will lead to a loss of liberty and loss of country.
This is totally unacceptable.
After the corrupt establishment losing twice in a row to Marxist Obama, I'm damned tired of the corrupt establishment and damned tired of losing.
If you are a NeverTrump type person, you are working against our purposes on FR, so please opus out now and log off and let us carry on with our mission in peace.
Continue insulting us with 24/7 anti-Trump diatribes and insults, your opus will be assumed.
We will unite behind our nominee and we will win this coming election (with or without you) and we will get a handle on this divided forum very soon.
Hope you understand my position.
By the way, Cruz's campaign still refuses to answer the question whether or not Cruz will support Trump if he's the nominee. He's taking the GOPe route of preferring Hillary over Trump. This is also totally unacceptable.
But in any event, so what if he's a latecomer to conservatism?
That doesn't mean hi isn't legitimately conservative.
Reagan had been a lifelong of the same Democrat party that worshipped FDR!
But Reagan changed.
So, as usual with you knee-jerk Trump-haters, you're too busy picking nits to see the forest for the trees.
Trump is conservative enough. Get that through your thick skull...
Vote Trump
“...boycott cotton...”
I did not even know this, it just seemed right to me that the states should have been left alone and boycotts and peer pressure would have done the job. Lincoln had good intentions perhaps but took us into a bloody war when sanctions and boycotts of the states still practicing this evil would have ended slavery in the end.
back on topic - to all:
Trump is the presumptive nominee because he has the majority of the votes now and is soon to have many more!!! It is a fact. Therefore - the constant drumbeat of anti Trump articles were becoming counter productive to the country’s best interest which is to unite behind the candidate that the majority of the people of America want.
C'mon pal, I posted once before to you about "you people" etc. junk you post and now you're saying the above?
If you neglected to read the owners Freeper editorial which is the subject of this thread you should read it now and either get on board or stop the drivel. If Donald Trump is the nominee and he likely will be you should help him to whip Hillary...Period.
I’m not sure why Kasich is in it...the most likely scenario is that he wants to be veep. I know why Cruz is in it. Should she not be indicted, Hillary may defeat Trump or Cruz; were she indicted, Sanders does better vs. all the Republicans. Trump may pick up some new & crossover votes, but not sure it’ll make up for the Republicans (especially women) that he’d lose (unless all those polls are wrong). The process must play out because someone has to win a majority (this is a recording). I am one who will hold my nose & vote for the lesser evil Trump if he’s the nominee.
Until such time as Trump secures 1237 or more delegates Cruz can still assemble a coalition of delegates from other candidates to either get 1237 or more on the first ballot or, if Trump fails on the first ballot, Cruz can win with a coalition on the second or later ballot. This is politics and building coalitions is a natural and expected process. Trump may have a hard time building a coalition since he has insulted virtually every other candidate who is or was in the race. His ardent supporters who have posted vile words about other candidates or other candidate’s supporters have not done Trump any good either.
So, no, Cruz should not pull out. He still has a reasonable chance of gaining the support of more delegates and more voters than Trump. Remember, Trump has not had the support of over 50% of voters, whether In primaries or caucuses.
With pleasure, my little chickadee...
Contested convention or not, the process, as always, will play itself out. I’ve listened to Mark since prior to his going national...even spoke to him on air. He is my favorite radio host & I’ve learned a lot from The Great One.
Yeah that post left me speechless and confused. When the about face?
Your position is objectively pro-Hillery as that only result of this maneuver is Hillery in the white house.
Beat it troll.
YES!
Got to generally agree on everything except Newt—
I’d prefer Tom Tancredo or Duncan Hunter Sr. (but would be happy if they were Secretary of State and Ambassador to the UN....)
Reagan was a conservative governor who fought for conservative principles all over the country. Why don’t you get it through your empty skull that Trump cannot be compared with Reagan. I still don’t know that Trump is a conservative because he’s now said a few things that might endear him to some Republicans. Had he decided to run for the Democrat nomination, I would not have been surprised. I was more surprised that he ran as a Republican.
Like most Cruzers, you don't understand math very well.
If he stays in, he will roll into the convention with somewhere beyond 700 delegates. You are suggesting that every one of those delegates would stay only with him if it goes to a second ballot. You are then suggesting that over 600 delegates would all switch to him.
Not gonna happen. It's asking for a miracle that all statistics would rebuke. It's not as if he's just so popular, likable, and persuasive that everyone is going to flock to him.
Okay that's the scenario of the second ballot, but it ain't gonna happen.
If the polls hold (and they've been holding strong), it's highly likely Trump gets over 1250. If a glitch happens, and he gets only 1200, do you really think the entire GOP delegates assembled will go insano and lock him out? That would ensure a loss in the general, a loss of the house and senate, and a loss of revenue that even the GOPe couldn't handle.
Sorry, you're just being delusional, or perhaps simply math challenged. Do the math, actually do it and you'll find how badly the deck is stacked against a second ballot, or Cruz being the beneficiary of that second ballot.
WTF put you in charge?
Reagan was a Democrat once too.
In the current, debased political and cultural environment we’re not going to do any better than this. None of the other options are even convincingly loyal to the nation.
I see you have a new and improved tag line.
Try for just a moment to think realistically, instead of theoretically.
The GOP burns if Trump is denied the nomination. You are grasping at straws, as is Cruz. Cruz stealing seizing the nomination means, without any doubt:
Do you honestly believe we should sacrifice both the party and the country's future on the altar of Ted Cruz's egotism, narcissism, and naked opportunism?
Are you f-----g insane?
Snap out of it!
Follow your reckless fantasy to its logical conclusion!
The willful disregard of Ted Cruz fanboys for the consequences of Ted Cruz's intransigence is really becoming infuriating. If you think that Trump voters are angry now, just wait until some clown like Cruz limps into the convention with, at best, 700 delegates or so, and tries to pull such a stunt.
If Trump isn't nominated, the GOP burns to the ground, fueled by the splinters of the unity Ted Cruz will have obliterated.
At this point, Ted Cruz's blind personal ambition is downright dangerous.
Fortunately, thinking people realize this.
That is why Ted Cruz is collapsing in national and state polls all over the country.
SO have your little bit of petty, vindictive fun while it lasts. By the time the convention rolls around, reality will have come crashing in to your tidy little dream world.
Of course, you'll discard your destructive delusion & vote for Donald Trump once he wins the nomination, right?
Vote Trump
When Jim showed up with this thread......
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