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Question re: Cruz/GOPe poaching delegates?

Posted on 04/19/2016 7:48:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

I heard Cruz saying tonight that he has "conservative activists" working the delegate to woo them over to his side. Is this true? Isn't it much more likely that the GOPe insiders are working the delegates? They control the party apparatus, not conservative activists.


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To: lonestar67

Yes, he did win Texas, with just over 40% is his home state, Oklahoma, though a great place, is not part of the “south”. Louisiana, well, Ted lost Louisiana...and also lost:

Virginia
North Carolina
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Mississippi

So...what else you got?


161 posted on 04/19/2016 9:12:42 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: GilGil
I listened to the Hannity interview with Cruz. He was still spinning that he won a vote in Colorado.

I truly don't think this guy realizes how poorly this plays with the unimportant voters.

162 posted on 04/19/2016 9:13:14 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: mplsconservative
Um no that is not it at all. You may be a conservative but I am most definitely a conservative. The truth is that conservatives support both Trump and Cruz. And I am sure that establishment republicans support both as well.
163 posted on 04/19/2016 9:13:14 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: Slyfox

“Then tell me why good pastors all over the country from all religious persuasions - Protestant, Catholic and Jewish - have formed a prayer team that meets every week?”
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Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?


164 posted on 04/19/2016 9:13:24 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (This year we break the Uniparty or it breaks us.)
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To: Iowa David

And one last thought. I liked Ted Cruz at first, really did but if his whole fake preacher man thing turned ME off, how will that play in the general?


165 posted on 04/19/2016 9:14:07 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: lonestar67

Cruz is 400,000 votes behind Trump in New York.

Luze Cruz, cannot get to 1237, should do what all sane people do drop out, and not let the bosses destroy the party.

If Cruz is an outsider he will suspend before he loses another 10 states.


166 posted on 04/19/2016 9:15:12 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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To: GilGil
Yes! But in places like Colorado and Wyoming there was no vote by the people at large. So in those examples the voters did not get to even vote for delegates.

Each state has its own rules. Do you think that the Supreme Court needs to step in and mandate that every state do the exact same thing?

167 posted on 04/19/2016 9:15:37 PM PDT by Slyfox (When someone tells it like it is, is it the truth?)
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To: JayGalt

I will not move on till some one wins the nomination. And since it will be Cruz I dont think that I will be moving on.


168 posted on 04/19/2016 9:15:58 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: Yosemitest

Trump is a “Trojan Horse” just waiting to unload all his Democrat Socialists into our government.
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WOW! You really haven’t been paying attention! The Communist-based totalitarians are already infesting out government at all levels. The Luciferian-based totalitarians are there as well. They launched a two pronged attack to get back in power with JEB! as the “establishment” candidate and Ted Cruz as the “consistent conservative outsider”. Either way, they expected to win.

Read the signs of the times! The nation that has killed 60 million babies is under judgement from YHWH. He is done with the United States of America.

We have been under judgement ever since the 1962 School Prayer ruling. The first official Muslim Brotherhood front organization founded in the U.S. was the Muslim Students Association (MSA), established on the Urbana-Champaign campus of the University of Illinois in 1964. The Muslim Brotherhood is a type of the Assyrian that YHWH used to bring judgement on the 10 tribes that made up Israel. Al Qaeda is an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. Their 9/11 attack was a perfect fulfillment of Isaiah 9:8-13.

Since the 1973 Roe v. Wade things have really gotten worse. Since then we have never won a war, before then we never lost one. With Obama we finally got Isaiah 3:4-5 “I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them. The people will be oppressed, everyone by another and every one by his neighbor; The child will be insolent toward the elder and the base to the honorable.”

All this moral decay was codified by Judges, just as the moral decay in Sodom and Gomorrah was, according to the Jewish sages, was codified by Judges. That puts us as “in the days of Lot” (Luke 17:28-37). The “great sign in the heavens” from Revelation 12:1-2 actually occurs on September 23-24, 2017. See the image at: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_1y_hLqVXf4/maxresdefault.jpg

So Ted Cruz is “in this race to show this country the face of the God that we serve”, as his wife has stated, which is part of the Dominion Heresy (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Theology), that believes that Conservative Christians need to take control of the secular government and rule over the non-Christians, for the good of all, of course.

Now if you believe that anything that we, as humans, can do will change the judgement to come, then you are not paying attention. But you are paying attention, so now you know why it is not a good idea to support Ted Cruz.

As for Donald Trump, I view him as a type of Samson, whom YHWH raised up to bring down the Temple of Dagon on the Philistines. Read Judges 13-16 and then look at the characteristics Donald Trump shares with Samson: Doesn’t drink, ever; has really wild hair; is really harsh if you treat him badly or unfairly; ran around with a lot of foreign women.

Now look at Donald Trump’s slogan: “Make America Great Again”. Alexis de Tocqueville said: “America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.” Donald Trump knows that in a country overrun with Philistines one can not campaign on “Make America Good Again”. However, if you look at what he says he will do, how offended he is by people lying about him, how offended he is with dirty tricks, how he hates the corruption in American government, etc. you know that he is trying to do is make America good again. So Donald Trump is bringing people out of the shadows, so to speak, and giving them hope that things can be better. This puts them out in the world where the Holy Spirit can bring believers into contact with those who are to be saved. So that is the spiritual aspect of the Trump campaign.

On the Bible Prophecy side, how is YHWH going to convince the Iranians that 2017 would be about the last time they, with their allies, can wipe out the United States and attack Israel to wipe it off the map?

How about we elect Donald Trump and he starts to make the American Military so strong that no one will want to mess with us? How about if he starts to root out the Muslim Brotherhood infiltration of the Government? In fact, the threat of having Donald Trump in the Whitehouse may well trigger the attack that is described in Ezekiel 38:10-13, which YHWH does not stop, so that the attack in Ezekiel 38:14-23, which YHWH will stop can take place. Then the End will come.

When the world gets to these critical points, there isn’t anything one can do to change the course set by YHWH for the world. It is much easier if you focus on that narrow way YHWH has for you to do as your part in His magnificent Word.


169 posted on 04/19/2016 9:16:14 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: jimpick

I am not going to have a ‘who is most conservative’ battle with you LOL

I am done with the establishment. McCain, Romney, been there done that with much regret.


170 posted on 04/19/2016 9:17:39 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: JayGalt

All Aboard, next stop on the Trump Train is that silly little cliff. But Donald says, “Only pay attention to what I say”.


171 posted on 04/19/2016 9:17:53 PM PDT by X-spurt (William of Ockham endorses Ted Cruz. 'the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected')
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To: Slyfox
Roger Stone co-founded an organization called "Republicans for Choice" dedicated to ridding the Republican party's pro-life plank. That plank is the foundation and edifice of all the social issues important to true conservatives. He has worked really hard with Karl Rove to get rid of all the grassroots Republicans trying to safeguard life since 1989. Roger Stone is a menace and for Trump to garner his advice really says a lot.

You really should get your facts right before you post this. According to the Republicans for Choice wiki page, the organization was started by Roger Stone's wife Anna, NOT ROGER STONE. She died a year later so who knows if he has, or had anything to do with this. Husbands and wives can have differing views. Of course if Roger did, I hope he eventually learned how wrong it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republicans_for_Choice

The main thing is your info was wrong but that's how the enemedia tends to smear people they don't like or opposes them. If you've been here long enough, you should know that.

CGato

172 posted on 04/19/2016 9:17:54 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: mplsconservative

I liked Trump at first. When I heard that people end him Bibles all the time and that he did not have the heart to throw them away I thought that was sweet. But then he placed money in the Communion plate. I realized I had to rethink what I had previously thought.


173 posted on 04/19/2016 9:19:55 PM PDT by Slyfox (When someone tells it like it is, is it the truth?)
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To: Zenjitsuman

We deserve a conservative nominees

I’ve never seen a movement more hateful of conservatives than the trump movement

I hope you all enjoyed yourselves

I will write in Cruz.

I’ll support any effort to make Cruz president.

This is trashy gutter conservative hate.


174 posted on 04/19/2016 9:20:31 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Trump is anti-conservative / Cruz 2016)
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To: Dr. Sivana; Jim Robinson

Your story is likely repeated over and over across the country.

The GOP is not top down like the DNC. Never has been.

We are bottom up and have always been bottom up, especially in delegate selection processes.

This is utter nonsense what Trump and his cronies are pushing. This is not establishment garbage. It’s conservative victories in the face of a hack who can’t run a campaign.


175 posted on 04/19/2016 9:20:41 PM PDT by plewis1250 (The pecking order: Christian, American, Conservative)
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To: Jim Robinson

Huh? The game is delegates...


176 posted on 04/19/2016 9:21:01 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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To: lonestar67
Trump said Hillary would make a good president Not me. I’ve never suggested that to anyone at anytime

Now, you're deflecting. In that article you believed Hillary Clinton before Roger Stone. That's just downright crazy considering the Clinton Crime Family, anything is possible.

CGato

177 posted on 04/19/2016 9:22:15 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: Slyfox

Each state has its own rules. Do you think that the Supreme Court needs to step in and mandate that every state do the exact same thing?
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I was commenting on the article attached to this thread. In the article the author said that voters do not get to vote for the candidate. They get to vote for delegates who elect the candidate.

My comment was then that in the case of Wyoming and Colorado the voters did not get to vote for the delegates. The point being that the article was inaccurate and misleading. That was my only point.


178 posted on 04/19/2016 9:22:51 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Psalm 144; SaveFerris

I would disagree on the provenance; he got it from his cultish, weird dad.
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You are not disagreeing with me! You just haven’t heard that Ted’s Dad worked with Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans as part of Clay Shaw’s “Free Cuba” operation, run by GHWB’s CIA. Rafael bugged out for Canada when Jim Garrison started investigating Clay Shaw’s connection to the Kennedy Assassination.

You just can’t make this stuff up. Ted Cruz really is the Luciferian’s “Obama”.


179 posted on 04/19/2016 9:23:44 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Slyfox

Ted knows the Federal law concerning SuperPacs and for that reason he has nothing to do with them.
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Guess what.

Members of the campaign can be in touch with the Super Pacs.

Don’t believe me? I don’t care.

Read these links below plus there are more on Washington Post. I’m done arguing about this issue.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fec-super-pac-coordination_us_56426ee7e4b060377346c337

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-politics-superpacs-impact-20151005-story.html


180 posted on 04/19/2016 9:23:56 PM PDT by GeaugaRepublican (Ted Cruz is the Jr. Senator from Canada.)
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