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Trump’s ‘voterless’ election myth
Washington Post ^ | April 18, 2016 | Marc A. Thiessen

Posted on 04/18/2016 8:36:31 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Donald Trump is complaining that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) is racking up “voterless” victories in states such as Colorado and Wyoming, where delegates are chosen by a “small handful of elites” who are “sidelining” Republican voters.

This is dead wrong. In both Colorado and Wyoming, all registered Republican voters in the state had the chance to vote and participate in the delegate selection process.

The Wyoming Republican Party website explains the process clearly: “Delegates to the state convention are elected by the county conventions. Delegates to the county convention are elected by precinct caucuses in their respective counties. Any person registered to vote Republican as of the call for precinct caucuses in a given precinct may vote in that precinct’s caucus” (emphasis added).

In other words, there is a whole lot of voting going on. All Republicans in Wyoming had the chance to go to their precinct and vote for delegates who support their preferred candidate. And they did so in record numbers. In Laramie County, for example, the lines ran out the door on Super Tuesday, and turnout was up almost 400 percent compared with 2012. “The lines outside, they are amazing,” said Glen Chavez, a first-time caucus-goer. “If you’ve never taken part in something like this, get involved. If you want to make the difference, you make the change.”

The same was true for Colorado. Under Article XII of the Colorado Republican Party’s bylaws, any person who is a resident of a precinct for 30 days and is a registered voter “affiliated with the Republican Party” for at least two months can vote in a precinct caucus. Any such person can also run for delegate.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: Wyoming
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To: AndyJackson

Better reread Animal Farm unlike the Barnyard animals, the Republicans in Colorado were given notice, were given a vote, were giving a fair procedure open to all including Donald Trump.


81 posted on 04/18/2016 9:42:41 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: silverleaf

“which is entirely plausible that’s what they want”

A few days ago Rush proffered an astute analogy. The RNC are the “Washington Generals”, the DNC are the “Harlem Globetrotters”. The RNC are perefctly happy with perpetual loss as long as they get to play. It’s true, and it holds an ominous message for any Cruz supporter since they are running the Ted Show.


82 posted on 04/18/2016 9:43:22 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Scutter

I’m sure you were perfectly happy with the “peoples choice” of McCain and Romney.
We can now see clearly how they have managed to nominate such Designated Losers.


83 posted on 04/18/2016 9:48:25 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: nathanbedford

Better reread Animal Farm unlike the Barnyard animals, the Republicans in Colorado were given notice, were given a vote, were giving a fair procedure open to all including Donald Trump.

But Donald had a different idea, instead of doing the hard work necessary why not spread a bunch of trumpism and let his supporters gin up a bunch of controversy that has no basis in reality.


84 posted on 04/18/2016 9:52:10 AM PDT by heshtesh ((New Yorker for Cruz))
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To: reaganaut1

Marc A. Thiessen objective criticism... MYTH


85 posted on 04/18/2016 9:57:20 AM PDT by orchestra ((And there were also two other, malefactors, led with him to be put to death.))
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To: nathanbedford
Colorado 2012
Rick Santorum 26,614 40.3%
Mitt Romney 23,012 34.9

Guess who got almost all of the delegates?

86 posted on 04/18/2016 9:58:40 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: C210N; proust; dragnet2; Jane Long; onyx

The rules do not discuss allowing unchecked corruption, not in writing, in the RULES, doofus.

How to suppress the Frontrunner’s supporters from even becoming his earned delegates, or serving to benefit his candidacy is not something you want in print, in the RULES.

How to institute “litmus tests” to identify the supporters of the Frontrunner, in order to reject them from serving as his delegates, is suppression, and it’s not something you want in print, either, in the RULES.

How to reject and entirely replace any and all of the Frontrunners representation, with frauds, is just not going to be found in writing, in the RULES.

This is about moral behavior and immoral behavior, and it is not among the words you find used, in the RULES.

How to replace the Frontrunner’s delegates with supporters of his opponent is not a virtue, and obviously it isn’t selling. It’s a form of fraud, misrepresentation, a lie.

Talk about a RICO violation.


87 posted on 04/18/2016 9:59:45 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
I’m sure you were perfectly happy with the “peoples choice” of McCain and Romney. We can now see clearly how they have managed to nominate such Designated Losers.
Thank you for so quickly and effectively providing an additional example of exactly the kind of post to which I was referring: Completely avoiding all of the points in the original post and instead resorting to unfounded assertions and personal attacks.

So first off, no, I was not "perfectly happy" with the McCain or Romney as candidate.

Second, I reject your's and other's repeated attempts to associate anything not-Donald as pro-establishment. This primary season the Republican party was WELL on the way to electing a non-establishment candidate, and I think this would have happened with considerably less drama had Trump not entered the race. What has happened since Trump entered the race, and I don't lay blame for this entirely at Trump's feet, is that the race has become a complete circus, virtually guaranteeing that Hillary will be our next President.

88 posted on 04/18/2016 10:00:37 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: mak5
The people voted. They elected representatives to choose delegates.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!! Just like in Arizona where Trump won the vote by a 2 to 1 margin and all the delegates are Cruz operatives. Cruz is a slippery little fish... I will give him that, but the game is being rigged by his GOPe puppet masters. Cruz is in this for one reason now and that is to try and prevent Trump from getting to 1237. Cruz has no chance of getting to a majority before the election.

You Cruz enthusiasts are deluding yourselves. Manipulating the process to disenfranchise voters is not going to help in the end. Looking at the contests ahead Cruz's days in the sun are now over. The big fall starts tomorrow with New York. It's not the fall that is going to hurt; it will be the sudden stop at the end.

After Cruz loses dramatically in State after State leading up to the convention, the GOPe will decide that their efforts to stop Trump have failed and it will not make a bit of difference to them whether or not Trump does or does not make it to 1237. They will be giving the nomination to Trump or risk losing it everything. Cruz has now so destroyed his credibility with cheating, ridiculous spin and despicable lawyerly parsing of words that Texans won't even re-elect him to a second term as Senator. He doesn't seem to know it, but it is all over for him

89 posted on 04/18/2016 10:04:23 AM PDT by fireman15 (The USA will be toast if the Democrats are able to take the Presidency in 2016)
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To: RitaOK

There ya go Rita!


90 posted on 04/18/2016 10:04:42 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: nathanbedford
LOL. The rules favor the GOPe. That is how and why they write them. It is all about control and power. It is the golden rule: He who has the gold, rules.''

Social media posts, along with Cruz’s campaign website, reveal that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) supporters in the Colorado Republican Party were responsible for crushing an effort to give Colorado the ability to vote in a state primary.

In May of 2015, four Colorado Senate Republicans killed an initiative “to create a presidential primary in 2016,” reported the Denver Post. “Under the bill, Colorado would have held a presidential primary in March that ran parallel with the state’s complicated caucus system… when it came before the Senate Appropriations Committee, four Republicans voted to kill the bill with three Democrats supporting it.”

The four Republicans who voted against the initiative were Sen. Kevin Grantham, Sen. Kent Lambert, Sen. Laura Woods, and Sen. Jerry Sonnenberg.

The four are part of the Cruz leadership team in CO.

91 posted on 04/18/2016 10:05:26 AM PDT by kabar
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To: D-fendr

Oh, so my error?

These states polling big for TRUMP were allowed to cast a vote directly for him, a ballot with his name on the damn thing?

My mistake.

Reading the news, I thought the rubes were not permitted to vote directly for candidates, but only delegates.

I read poorly. How embarrassing.

The reports are that these particular states simply voted for delegates, who knew better how to determine the peoples choice for them, you know... to make the loser, the winner.

Silly me.


92 posted on 04/18/2016 10:05:26 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Scutter

Except that Cruz is not anti-establishment, he just acts like he is, then he votes for Corker, TPA and won’t say anything about enforcement of immigration laws until recently.
His answer a year ago was that we would have a conversation about the 30 million illegal aliens already here after the border was secure. Sounds suspiciously like McCain/Grahma/Yeb!/and the rest of the Cheap Labor Express traitors.


93 posted on 04/18/2016 10:08:36 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Scutter

I think anyone would have to concede that the GOP was NOT on the way to picking an “outsider” before Trump entered the race, and that we all, including Ted Cruz, owe Trump a debt of gratitude for not allowing the GOPe to serve up a Jeb Bush candidacy and manufacture a Clinton-Bush re-run to bring back those neocon glory days of the 1990’s


94 posted on 04/18/2016 10:11:02 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: RitaOK
Trump got a whole lot more delegates than votes. Why is that fair? Aren't these non-Trump voters disenfranchised. >>>the rubes were not permitted to vote directly for candidates.. Depends. One does have to know what they're doing. The candidate has to organize people who know what their doing. Should be Trump's strong suit, yes? But, you are wrong in some cases. Here's the voting results in Freemont County, WY. Cruz 64 ✔ Kaisich Rubio Trump 33
95 posted on 04/18/2016 10:11:17 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: dragnet2

Thanks, drag.

Thankfully, the Cruz zombies are reduced to blowing this smoke only on the internet.

They would not dare go out in public and broadly repeat that the people’s vote shouldn’t count, and that delegates can do it for them thank you very much.

They would get whole meringue pies up their nose.


96 posted on 04/18/2016 10:15:00 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
an "outsider" would not be working those delegates using every arcane rule put in place by every different state with the cooperation of the party apparatchik to make sure they get a ticket the insiders want. By GOP club rules, it's the little schmucks who are told to hold their noses and vote loyally for whatever they are given ... never ever the party elites
97 posted on 04/18/2016 10:16:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: GotMojo

He IS playing another game. By his choice he is only working on states where he can win by using his unparalleled mastery of free TV coverage and twitter in states that use primary voting systems.

However, it is unfair to use his TV and twitter following to mislead his followers with claims that the other states which use the time honored method of delegate selection via precinct and county elections among Republican party workers and supporters have ‘rigged’ the outcome.

That’s simply a coverup for his lack preparation for any organization on the ground at the county or precinct level which is necessary and traditional in those states.

He says he doesn’t want to spend the money. I don’t know why not since he boastfully claims to have mastered the corrupt system of politics that controls his building efforts by spreading money around in the form of bribes to officials. This is surely more important to him than getting another zone change.


98 posted on 04/18/2016 10:23:31 AM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a slasher, and find one.... what's your plan?)
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To: RitaOK

Thankfully, the Cruz zombies are reduced to blowing this smoke only on the internet.

They would not dare go out in public and broadly repeat that the people’s vote shouldn’t count, and that delegates can do it for them thank you very much.

They would get whole meringue pies up their nose.

Unfortunately you are probably correct, but the good news is that will only be people who refuse to recognize the previously established rules.


99 posted on 04/18/2016 10:23:45 AM PDT by heshtesh ((New Yorker for Cruz))
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To: heights
You're right, of course.

In the astronomically remote chance that Ted Cruz would be the Republican Party nominee, the socialist democrats will run this as a political ad right up to election day. It's not just that the less than 1.5% of the population who are homosexual will vote against Cruz, but so will tens of millions of voters who, though they at best tolerate the "homosexual lifestyle" who don't want them killed. They certainly won't vote for a presidential candidate who associates with a person who passionately preaches such an abhorrent idea.

100 posted on 04/18/2016 10:24:25 AM PDT by glennaro
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