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Donald Trump wins NH, but Jeb Bush has strong night
Tampa Bay Times ^ | 2/10/16 | Alex Leary

Posted on 02/10/2016 6:14:21 AM PST by jimbo123

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To: Teacher317
There is no evidence to support that assumption that Cruz is “everyone 2nd choice. . Current polling shows that if you pick off the other candidates, Rubio is the likely destination of the Non Trump vote.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/republican-presidential-primary-2016/

Things also bode well for Rubio as the field gets smaller in the coming weeks. In a four candidate field he gets 32% to 31% for Trump, 23% for Cruz, and 8% for Bush. In a three candidate field he gets 34% to 33% for Trump and 25% for Cruz. And in head to heads he leads both Trump (52/40) and Cruz (46/40). As other candidates drop out of the race Rubio is the most likely destination of their supporters.

61 posted on 02/10/2016 6:51:12 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: samtheman
I understand it is a pro-yeb piece by a pro-yeb POS outfit, but the fact remains, where are the GOPe voters going to go, with no Rubio?

Well put. I don't see dedicated GOP establishment voters staying home, but when it becomes just Trump v Cruz, where do they go? THAT is a big question for late March, and is one of the reasons that the race is closer than it looks. My guess is that they fall to a sitting Senator over a non-politician who could (and hopefully will, if elected) dismantle the entire party organizational leadership. That 18-20 pct makes it a tie game heading to overtime... or a least that is one of the hopes I have to hang my hat on. Trump's mouth, the anti-NE-liberal South, and TX are the others at the moment.

62 posted on 02/10/2016 6:53:17 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: TontoKowalski
-- Now I think he just wants Rubio in the race to torment Bush and keep the votes split, and Trump will finish him off when he's ready. --

I agree completely. Trump's real enemy is the GOPe, at this point, and that enemy has split its money and soldiers. May as well let "you and him fight it out."

Whenever one of the GOPe-appointed galdiators drops out, it means more direct fire incoming to Trump.

63 posted on 02/10/2016 6:53:55 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Lumper20
Our so called American/Mexican son of a President who upon graduation from a wealthy boys Prep school in New England goes to Mexico to

... to marry an unattractive, unaccomplished Mexican girl.

64 posted on 02/10/2016 6:53:58 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: goldstategop

Yeah, but three delegates, a turtle, and a happy warrior, now THAT is something to behold.


65 posted on 02/10/2016 6:54:54 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: MNJohnnie

Your article is dated 2/4, before the NH debate. We’ll see if Rubio can recapture momentum.


66 posted on 02/10/2016 6:55:42 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Teacher317

The ONLY reason that a Bush or Rubio voter would vote for Cruz over Trump in a two-way race with no GOPe alternative is to ensure a demorat victory in November, which some of them I believe would clearly prefer.

They know what most of us know: Cruz cannot win in November.

As one FReeper said (and I wish I bookmarked it and I wish I remembered his name):

Cruz has all the electability of Goldwater and all the charm of Nixon.


67 posted on 02/10/2016 6:56:25 AM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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To: PapaBear3625
... to marry an unattractive, unaccomplished, high maintenance Mexican girl.
68 posted on 02/10/2016 6:57:31 AM PST by skeeter
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To: MNJohnnie
"No evidence"? That's a nice empty declaration.

For every candidate, Cruz is the top "second choice" (JAN 7)

69 posted on 02/10/2016 6:57:50 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: TontoKowalski

This is analysis, not advocacy:

If Trump is the nominee there’s a good chance he picks Rubio as his VP.

It potentially helps Trump with Hispanics and Floridians (though by how much, is an open question). It gives him a Washington/establishment insider on the ticket (and can be seen as a sop to GOPe [I’ll keep your boy Marco around and train him for when he’s actually ready to run]). Similarly, Rubio is likely to be a “good soldier” who will say what Donald wants. It’s a nice finger in the eye to Jeb that Trump picked the “uppity kid” who wouldn’t wait his turn for Bush. Finally, it keeps Cruz in the Senate (warming up a seat for SCotUS maybe).

Sure, some of the Trumpkins will squawk at first but in the end they aren’t going to throw over the Donald just because he picked an establishment running mate.


70 posted on 02/10/2016 6:59:38 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole)
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To: andy1954
Actually I hoping for Rubio to come on strong in South Carolina but for different reasons than you. I still believe he is the best General Election candidate we have. Jeb is a no, no no.

I'm wondering if Carson will wind up with some votes. South Carolina is an open-primary state.

What do you think the odds are of some significant number of black Democrat voters deciding to vote in the Republican primary for the only black candidate in the race?

71 posted on 02/10/2016 6:59:47 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Teacher317

I live down here only the old people read a newspaper…all the papers here are DNC propaganda

Rubio is a RINO


72 posted on 02/10/2016 7:01:25 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: crusty old prospector
New Hampshire doesn't pick Republican presidents.

So what planet are you from?

New Hampshire primary winners on planet Earth

2016 Donald Trump
2012 Mitt Romney
2008 Senator John McCain
2004 George W. Bush
2000 Senator John McCain
1996 Pat Buchanan
1992 George H. W. Bush
1988 George H. W. Bush
1984 Ronald Reagan
1980 Ronald Reagan
1976 Gerald R. Ford
1972 Richard Nixon
1968 Richard Nixon
1964 Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1960 Richard Nixon
1956 Dwight D. Eisenhower
1952 Dwight D. Eisenhower

73 posted on 02/10/2016 7:02:09 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: samtheman
They know what most of us know: Cruz cannot win in November.

We also "knew" he couldn't beat Trump in IA.

His opponent is likely a devout elderly Communist... or Bernie. ba-dum-PAH! ;)

Even Mittens would have a chance in that race. Declaring that Cruz "cannot win" I think says more about what you hope for rather than actual realistic expectations.

74 posted on 02/10/2016 7:02:31 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: PapaBear3625
What do you think the odds are of some significant number of black Democrat voters deciding to vote in the Republican primary for the only black candidate in the race?

I think it is more likely that some non-ideologue black Democrats cross for Trump. Not many, but some. It will be a good test of my assertion that Trump can eat into the D advantage with black voters.

It's worth noting that Tim Scott is the only Black Republican in the Senate (I'm almost sure that's true), but he foolishly threw his endorsement to Rubio before the debate.

I just don't see black men lining up to vote for Hillary Clinton.

75 posted on 02/10/2016 7:08:36 AM PST by TontoKowalski (Satisfied Customer #291)
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To: goldstategop

He has 2 delegates from NH and 1 from Iowa.


76 posted on 02/10/2016 7:17:54 AM PST by Scutter
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Looks like bush is the media designated Trump killer of the week...after Carson, Fiorina, Cruz, Rubio were all thrust into the role and failed.

Kasich is waiting in the wings.

77 posted on 02/10/2016 7:22:21 AM PST by pfflier
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To: jimbo123

Now that’s just plain funny


78 posted on 02/10/2016 7:24:01 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Mr. K
Little Yebbie: “I’m number #4 - yay me”

What little Yebbie doesn't seem to understand is any contest only has one winner, all the rest are losers by definition.

79 posted on 02/10/2016 7:24:02 AM PST by dearolddad (/i>)
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To: andy1954

Does this finally finish off Rubio?

Who all face reality and show that they are adults and drop out of the race?

Rubio, Bush (nope, the dope won’t), Cristy, Fiorina, Carson?

Kasich should because he just got a lot of Democrat cross overs and yankee RINOs. He will get clobbered in the south.


80 posted on 02/10/2016 7:25:40 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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