Posted on 01/08/2016 9:57:21 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
On Ted Cruz's eligibility, if he's the great advocate of the Constitution that he purports to be, I don't see why he doesn't agree to the public release of his immigration and naturalization file. Yes, he absolutely has to have an immigration file. We know for a fact that he doesn't have a U.S. birth certificate, and without that, the only way to legally live and work in the United States is via the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
If it's true that he acquired U.S. citizenship at birth through his mother, then the file would consist of a Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the United States of America (CRBA). http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/abroad/events-and-records/birth.html.
If such a document is in fact on file with the Statement Department, then we can at least say that he was a citizen at birth.
But no, that does not close the case. While there's certainly a good argument that "natural born citizen" means "citizen at birth", there are other arguments to the effect that if the purpose of the NBC clause was to prevent a President with divided loyalties, dual citizenship and natural born citizenship would be mutually exclusive categories, and it's not questioned that Cruz was a dual citizen until a bit more than two years ago.
I'd also like to say that for some of us, this issue as it related to Obama and now Cruz is far from just some wacky irrelevant technicality: the basic problem that America faces IMHO is the fact that we have traitors who have infested the highest levels of our government. Maybe not literal traitors actively fighting on the battlefield with our enemies, but traitors in the sense of people who place the interests of non-Americans above the interests of Americans; they don't place our security above our "international obligations", they don't defend our borders, they prioritize the needs of illegal aliens over those of American citizens, they sign international trade deals that decimate American industry, and on and on.
As it happens the Founders of our great nation were also quite concerned about this, having just fought a war for their independence not only against the British Crown, but also against the "Loyalists" who remained loyal to it following the Declaration of Independence. In yet another of their incredibly brilliant and prescient moves in crafting the Constitution, they embedded within it a clause that would (hopefully) ensure that at the highest level of our government, we would exclude those who might have divided loyalties, and even more IMHO, people who in the back of their minds might know that they would always have an "escape hatch" to avoid accountability to the American people by virtue of a latent claim to citizenship in a foreign country.
Yes, ultimately, a socialist traitor can come from anywhere, as can a constitutional conservative, but I don't see anything wrong with maintaining this one small measure of additional insurance against exactly the sort of traitorous, anti-American behavior and ideology that has been the hallmark of the Obama Administration.
God Bless
He’s an American citizen. Period.
Stop this nonesense.
Candidate for most ignorant statement of the day. Arnold Schwartzenegger is unquestionably an American citizen and he is unquestionably ineligible for the Presidency.
Boy, it must be hard going through life stupid.
Cruz is qualified under the Constitution PERIOD! Get over it.
Eh, he might be. Depends on whose definition of natural born citizen you want to use.
The stauatory defintion from 1791, 1795, 1940, et al.
Get a life.
No, if they were the same thing the Founders wouldn't have used the term Natural born as a requirement for Presidential eligibility. They would have used the same term as they did for all of the others - citizen of the United States.
I keep asking to be shown sources where more than two categories of citizenship are cited.
I never said there were more than two.
If your citizenship status has to be determined by a law, you're naturalized, not natural born.
And no, I won't sort through and define anything to your satisfaction. The burden of proof is for you to come up with a law that uses the term 'natural born' since that's what the Constitution requires.
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BTW - Wong Kim Ark, the benchmark derision that supposedly created a 'native' born citizen when someone is born here of foreign parents said-
A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, or by authority of congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens,..
With few exceptions, being born in a another country means you're born outside the jurisdiction of the United States.
Statutes can no more define who is and who is not a natural born citizen then they can define what is or is not an unconstitutional restriction on religious liberty.
Not document is provided nor was a link to said documents.
“4 years and both had applied for and been granted Canadian citizenshipâ€Â
Not document is provided nor was a link to said documents.
I don’t have a link. The statement was from Cruz’s father.
go to scribd.com “cruz citizenship timeline”. I wish I could paste..sorry.
They make the assertion, plainly.
But then they don't provide any documentary evidence.
And absent that, with the release today of Cruz's mom's BC, this is a closed case.
By US Law he is a US Citizen by birth.
And absent that, with the release today of Cruz’s mom’s BC, this is a closed case.
By US Law he is a US Citizen by birth.
In 1970 my daughter was born in Schweinfurt, West (at the time) Germany to myself, an American citizen, and her mother, a German citizen (at the time). I immediately went to the American consulate in Munich and had her, my daughter, "made" an American citizen, complete with US passport. One trip to the consulate, and a few bucks, is all it took. Two months later we all came to the US and lived happily (mostly) ever after. No immigration file.
b. obama sr was not a US citizen, and yet b obama jr squats in public housing in Washington DC, on the public payroll.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
b. obama sr was not a US citizen, and yet b obama jr squats in public housing in Washington DC, on the public payroll.
We all know how that came to pass...don’t we..
In order to be considered a "naturalized" citizen, you must have undergone the following. There is no other way to be considered naturalized. If you can produce information that Ted Cruz went through this process, I will concede your point. If he was not a citizen at birth and did not undergo the naturalization process, then he has been illegally serving as a U.S. Senator.
Naturalization Process
In general, the naturalization process includes the following steps:
Determine if you are already a U.S. citizen.
Determine your eligibility to become a U.S. citizen.
Prepare Form N-400, Application for Naturalization.
Submit Form N-400, Application for Naturalization.
Go to the biometrics (fingerprinting) appointment, if applicable.
Complete the interview.
Receive a decision from USCIS on your Form N-400, Application for Naturalization.
Receive a notice to take the Oath of Allegiance.
Take the Oath of Allegiance to the United States.
Understand your rights and responsibilities as a U.S. citizen.
I agree. I'm not arguing that it is "right." Just stating the facts. I wish this genie could be squeezed back into the bottle, but that ain't gonna happen.
You don’t think they made a copy of her passport and supporting documentation?
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