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Jersey Sure (Mark Steyn 'Pinocchios' the Fact Checkers on Muslim 9/11 Celebrations)
Steyn Online ^ | Tuesday, November 24, 2015 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/24/2015 4:08:12 AM PST by kristinn

I have a strong dislike of the current fashion among American's decrepit and unreadable newspapers for "fact-checker" columns, because the practice attempts to cloak run-of-the-mill hacks in an aura of dispassionate authority that they do not, in fact, possess. Case in point: The Washington Post's Glenn Kessler, who has awarded "four Pinocchios" to Donald Trump, for claiming to recall seeing "thousands" of Jersey City Muslims celebrating on September 11th 2001. Mr Kessler wrote:

Trump says that he saw this with his own eyes on television and that it was well covered. But an extensive examination of news clips from that period turns up nothing. There were some reports of celebrations overseas, in Muslim countries, but nothing that we can find involving the Arab populations of New Jersey.

Kessler has spent the day re-writing and re-re-writing that confident assertion. As of now, that last sentence currently reads:

There were some reports of celebrations overseas, in Muslim countries, but nothing that we can find involving the Arab populations of New Jersey except for unconfirmed reports.

When Kessler says "nothing that we can find", he didn't have to search very hard. After a two-minute Google search, Powerline's John Hinderaker turned up the following:

In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners' plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.

What demented fringe conspiracist website would traffic in such nonsense? Well, in fact, it was Glenn Kessler's own newspaper, The Washington Post, which published the story on September 18th 2001. Is it an "unconfirmed report"? Well, Kessler's colleague, Post reporter Serge Kolvaleski, said in a 2003...

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1 posted on 11/24/2015 4:08:13 AM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

We need fact checkers to start checking the fact checkers.


2 posted on 11/24/2015 4:16:30 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Carlyle Begay. More bad news for the Clintonistas and the Democrats.)
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To: kristinn

thx Kristinn.

Hope you are keeping well. ‘Pod.


3 posted on 11/24/2015 4:17:08 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: kristinn

The Libs are scared to death of Trump. They cannot grasp why he is so popular so they are doing everything they can to discredit him. The GOP establishment feels the same and has jumped on the Libs’ bandwagon. Meanwhile, Trump wins more and more people to his side by simply telling people what he thinks, regardless of who is in the audience. The MSM doesn’t know how to handle that kind of honesty.


4 posted on 11/24/2015 4:19:42 AM PST by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: kristinn

I got so fired up about this this morning that I woke up the wife while I was ironing. I very specifically remembering reading newspapers at the time that said that Muslims in Jersey were detained for celebrations, and now they’re saying, “Oh, no, we were mistaken. That never happened.” Fie on them!


5 posted on 11/24/2015 4:19:56 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: kristinn

Well I remember it being reported of a joyous celebration of Muslims in Paterson NJ on the destruction of the Twin Towers.


6 posted on 11/24/2015 4:21:06 AM PST by exPBRrat
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To: exPBRrat
Well I remember it being reported of a joyous celebration of Muslims in Paterson NJ on the destruction of the Twin Towers.

Same here.

7 posted on 11/24/2015 4:24:03 AM PST by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: kristinn
FreeRepublic was up to speed on this issue by Sunday afternoon:

Northern New Jersey Draws Probers' Eyes [muslims cheer in NJ after 9/11]

8 posted on 11/24/2015 4:25:30 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: kristinn

bookmark


9 posted on 11/24/2015 4:26:02 AM PST by samtheman (I will build a great, great wall on our southern border... - DT)
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To: kristinn
Getting back to the point of the controversy, Trump said he saw thousands of Muslims cheering the attacks in Jersey City. The only way he could have done that was to see it on TV. If that happened, there should be video footage. I have yet to see (and I was in NYC on 9-11) said footage.

I realize 2001 was pre IPhone. But it wasn't 1901. Thousands of people gathering in the street is a huge happening.There were cameras, there were video recorders. I am skeptical of Trump's statement until I see video proof. If it actually happened, it wouldn't be that hard to get.

10 posted on 11/24/2015 4:26:13 AM PST by Sir_Humphrey (I farted on Michael Moore's pillow)
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To: kristinn

By denying, the left has consciously chosen to give support to the jihadis.


11 posted on 11/24/2015 4:27:35 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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To: kristinn

We are not, and have never been, at war with Oceania.


12 posted on 11/24/2015 4:28:36 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: kristinn

Every sentence, every phrase, every belch is parsed and placed under a microscope to find something, anything to use against the enemy. And believe you me Trump is a bigger enemy of the Republican establishment than ISIS.
The MSM and the GOPe did a pretty good job on Dr. Carson. With a little help from the Democrat wing of the Republican Party, of course. Carson was just the lowest hanging fruit. Now it is Trumps turn.


13 posted on 11/24/2015 4:32:38 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: rarestia

Next time, keep the ironing part out of the story...

Otherwise, a good comment


14 posted on 11/24/2015 4:35:02 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Tupelo
The MSM and the GOPe did a pretty good job on Dr. Carson.

As they did with Sarah Palin and Herman Cain.

15 posted on 11/24/2015 4:35:05 AM PST by Salvey
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To: Sir_Humphrey

I’m not certain if I saw videos, but I definitely saw stills of muslims in America partying after the bombings.


16 posted on 11/24/2015 4:38:50 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: kristinn

video of the jumpers

That's what they were celebrating.

17 posted on 11/24/2015 4:39:50 AM PST by greedo
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To: kristinn

Rule #1: Leftists Lie.

It’s their factory setting, their default condition.

Between the gaslighting from every media and academic outlet, and the screaming of the poop-flinging monkeys on the Web, truth is Stage IV Terminal in this nation.


18 posted on 11/24/2015 4:41:00 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: econjack
Trump wins more and more people to his side by simply telling people what he thinks the truth.

The DIMS and the GOP have been lying for so long they don't know how to respond to objective facts.

19 posted on 11/24/2015 4:50:02 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: kristinn

I live in Jersey. More of a Cruz guy myself, but I distinctly remember them celebrating in Paterson. It was on all the local news


20 posted on 11/24/2015 4:52:36 AM PST by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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