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Carson Soars, Trump Solidifies [] survey puts physician ahead, but tycoon's base is far more solid
Life Zette ^ | Jon Conradi

Posted on 10/27/2015 11:53:44 AM PDT by GonzoII

Washington insiders, DC media elites, and GOP Establishment donors sang out in joy on the news that a candidate — any candidate — had surpassed Donald Trump in a national poll of the 2016 Republican nominating contest.

A poll released Tuesday from CBS and the New York Times put Dr. Ben Carson in first place with 26 percent, four points ahead of the previously untouchable Trump. Though the margin of error is 7 percent, is it possible Trump’s aura of polling infallibility is busted — even though Trump has led in 35 of 27 polls?

Jubilee rang out all over the Punditdom. “Ben Carson’s Surge Has Trump on the Ropes,” read the NBC News Online update ‘The Lid.’ The new poll shows “an important shift in the Republican presidential race,” said CBS’ Charlie Rose on Tuesday morning. “Ben Carson knocks Donald Trump from top spot nationally,” blared a CNN Online headline, despite the fact that Trump has led the seven other national polls conducted in October and leads the RealClearPolitics average of national polling by 4.5 percent.

In reality, the new poll suggests key strengths for Trump. Support for the real estate mogul has congealed into more concrete backing than the comparative mass of mush behind Carson. Over half, 54 percent, of callers who selected Trump as their first choice said their minds were made up, compared with only 19 percent of Carson backers in the survey.

Carson has also earned much of his newfound support through a colossal program of strategic campaign spending. The Carson campaign spent more than $20 million in the third quarter of 2015, nearly five times as much as Trump spent.

The survey is also a powerful testament to Trump’s staying power and strength with less than 100 days to go before voting begins.

So while Carson is picking up interest, partially due to the $5 million his campaign spent on digital and social media advertising alone, Trump has solidified his base into the kind of dedicated backers who can be counted on to act for him — the kind of voters who can be counted on to caucus for him on the ground in Iowa.

Related: Trump’s Iowa Wakeup Call

To be sure, the tightening of the numbers should be a wakeup call to Trump to begin deploying traditional infrastructure and ads alongside his media-centric strategy. But the survey is also a powerful testament to Trump’s staying power and strength with less than 100 days to go before voting begins.

Carson’s success, particularly in Iowa, “is more because of the evangelical support for Carson,” Washington Post national political reporter Bob Costa said Tuesday on “The Laura Ingraham Show.”

The Carson creep on Trump’s dominant position nevertheless demonstrates the temperament of the voters is still with Trump and the outsider mantle Costa said. “It’s immigration that remains the backbone of [Trump’s] support with the grassroots.”

The temperament of the voters is certainly not with the Establishment candidates, widely viewed as weak on the issue of immigration, with both Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush lagging in the single digits according to the CBS-New York Times poll.

Bush, meanwhile, got more bad news in the poll. More than half of Republicans (56 percent) would be “dissatisfied” if he wins the nomination.



TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016polls; carson; elections; poll; polls; trump
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To: GonzoII

“In reality, the new poll suggests key strengths for Trump. Support for the real estate mogul has congealed into more concrete backing than the comparative mass of mush behind Carson. Over half, 54 percent, of callers who selected Trump as their first choice said their minds were made up, compared with only 19 percent of Carson backers in the survey.”

This points to Carson being a parking lot for Trump voters.


41 posted on 10/27/2015 1:09:14 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: LeoWindhorse

So true. Raise your hand if you know even one person who has indicated an interest in voting for Carson. I don’t know even one.


42 posted on 10/27/2015 1:11:43 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: GonzoII

The poll question was....which is your favorite low energy candidate?


43 posted on 10/27/2015 1:25:39 PM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: GonzoII

HA ha ha, this is too funny...

Just a few more threads down on FR we have,...

1.
Trump’s National Lead Increases to 35.6%”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3353443/posts

2.
Poll: Trump leads Carson by 14 points nationwide!!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3353426/posts


44 posted on 10/27/2015 1:32:29 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Williams

So good he has lead in 8 polls that haven’t even been taken yet.


45 posted on 10/27/2015 1:35:25 PM PDT by Optimist
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To: ForYourChildren

Here is Trump did to Anderson Cooper when Cooper tried to pull a false poll on Trump.

“I am leading across the board,” Trump said in the interview. “And then you hit me with this poll that I didn’t see before, where oh, gee, it’s not even that kind of a poll. All i know is I have a very big group of support. And I think one of the reasons.”

“Let me tell you. The people don’t trust you and the people don’t trust the media. And I understand why,” Trump lectured Cooper.

“60%-70% of the media is really dishonest.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=114cA3Bm1SA
2 minutes where Trump trashes Cooper and the media


46 posted on 10/27/2015 1:52:32 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren; GonzoII; stephenjohnbanker; WENDLE
The MSM are trained at the Tokyo Rose school of propaganda, (Leftist academia).

But this time around they have a bit of a problem, because few if anyone have any trust for the main stream media/D.C.☺

It's strange as I saw and felt the total lack of faith and trust part coming years ago. But didn't see a Trump in that picture. Trump was a huge surprise with his 6/15/2015 announcement speech. He totally blind sided the disciples of deception and the crowns of corruption.

In my opinion, we are all witnesses to big league history here.

47 posted on 10/27/2015 2:28:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

It’s strange as I saw and felt the total lack of faith and trust part coming years ago. But didn’t see a Trump in that picture. Trump was a huge surprise with his 6/15/2015 announcement speech. He totally blind sided the disciples of deception and the crowns of corruption.

In my opinion, we are all witnesses to big league history here.


I agree.


48 posted on 10/27/2015 2:42:43 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: dragnet2

“In my opinion, we are all witnesses to big league history here. “
I agree with your observations and opinions. I very much enjoy this particularly on days like today where the republicrat leadership capitulates again to aggregate 3.9 TRILLION in bebt in just 3 years. and we see busted spending caps and total disregard for the House constitutional mandate on spending— ALL contrary to what they were sent there for. Go Trump.


49 posted on 10/27/2015 3:14:48 PM PDT by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: dragnet2

“In my opinion, we are all witnesses to big league history here. “

Yeah, and I’m enjoying every minute of it.


50 posted on 10/28/2015 8:17:51 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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