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Carson: 'I Would Establish a No-Fly Zone' Along Turkish Border
Newsmax ^ | 10/8/15 | Bill Hoffmann

Posted on 10/11/2015 10:07:21 AM PDT by jimbo123

Dr. Ben Carson has joined the growing chorus of outrage over Russian President Vladimir Putin's military muscle flexing, telling Newsmax TV a no-fly zone should be created along the Turkish border.

A sophisticated missile defense system should also be put in place to keep Russia's fighter jets in check, according to Carson, a retired pediatric neurosurgeon seeking the 2016 GOP presidential nomination.

"Vladimir Putin has expansionist ideas. He wants to really re-establish a worldwide Soviet influence," Carson told Newsmax TV's Steve Malzberg in an interview aired Thursday.

"He was very unhappy with the dissolution [of the Soviet Union]. Now he's looking for weakness. What we need to do is demonstrate that there is no weakness there."

And that means putting the kibosh on Russia's bullying of surrounding nations, he believes.

"We need to stand our ground with the airspace. I would establish a no-fly zone along the border with Turkey, in no way would I back off," Carson said.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2016election; amnesty; astroturf; bencarson; china; election2016; idiocy; iran; iraq; islamicappeaser; israel; kurdistan; lebanon; noflyzone; putinsbuttboys; russia; russianstooges; syria; turkey; vladtheimploder; waronterror
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To: jimbo123

His (and most others) should be that since they are not CIC and therefore do not receive morning security briefings, so it’s impossible to comment intelligently on what should be done - if anything.

Due to our incompetent MCIC (man-child-in-chief), the morale of our armed forces are at historic lows, and the military has been irresponsibly and foolishly decimated. Retiring the A-10, for example is the height of stupidity. And no, there is no adequate substitute.

0bama has shown himself to be an inept paper tiger and has so many foreign policy debacles, I would be reluctant to do anything without careful and extensive thought.

Then leave it at that.


61 posted on 10/11/2015 12:36:42 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
And? Contradicts nothing I sad here.

49 While you’re at it, please link me to a post where I advocated the U. S. becoming involved in Syria.

50 Every part of the world is our part of the world... / Syria is part of the world.

22 We should never have become involved in Syria.

Except where it actually does.  These were all posts to you.

You want to make a point about America becoming imperial and I countered it.


No, this is another nutty interpretation of yours.  An imperial nation conquers other nations and declares their territory as it's own.

Think Germay and Japan  in WWII.

Let me know when you have an example of me advocating that.


We were there. What we should have done once there and what we did there are different things.

There?  Syria?  Reference my post at 22, linked above.

Had we blown it to hell to begin with we’d not have to go.

It?  Syria?  Reference my post at 22, linked above.

Try(ing) to keep up.


You can't even remember the things said on the same thread (being nice), or you simply stated something you knew not to be true.

I expect the people I converse with here to have an adult mentality.  Just becase the planet is smaller and we have to be cognisant of what's going on around it, it doesn't mean we have to get involved in every conflict.

Libya and Syria were conflicts we should have stayed out of.  You're so wrapped up in your own agenda, you couldn't grasp this.  That begs the auestion if you didn't leave out an "ing" in that attempted one line zinger..


62 posted on 10/11/2015 12:37:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Nothing you said after calling the founders words ‘nonsense’ should be taken seriously.


63 posted on 10/11/2015 12:40:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Lurkinanloomin

There was nothing in Syria worth getting in a war with Syria over.


64 posted on 10/11/2015 12:40:44 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Poor Norm. You can’t grasp basic concepts.

In a time when it took months to circumnavigate the world, our Founders warned against foreign entanglements. I support that premise. That does not address a time when it takes ninety minutes to circumnavigate the planet.

It takes only 45 minutes for missile to leave Russia and arrive here. Am I going to fast for you?

Thomas Jefferson was himself entangled in North Africa. Lest you forget, he was a Founding Father. Perhaps you should trash him for not respecting our Founding Fathers! LMAO

Strategically we pay attention to hot spots around the world because if we didn’t, we would soon have China and Russia on our doorstep. China is right now making inroads into South America. Russia and China are doing the same thing in the Middle-East and Africa. China is expanding it’s outreach further into the Southern Asian Pacific.

We can’t simply pull our troops and Navy home and make happy talk while China and Russia divvy up the planet.

It’s a real shame I have to explain this to you.


65 posted on 10/11/2015 12:44:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Type as much as you like. Nothing you said after calling the words of the founders ‘nonsense’ will be taken seriously.

Using colored text doesn’t change that. Writing books doesn’t change that.


66 posted on 10/11/2015 12:46:43 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Thanks Norm.

Reminding you once again. Thomas Jefferson approved of our Navy becoming involved in a North African campaign.

If one of our Founding Fathers could differ with the ‘no foreign entanglements’ doctrine, I don’t think I’m in danger of insulting them by agreeing with him in today’s world.

Keeping up indeed...


67 posted on 10/11/2015 12:47:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: jimbo123; Nextrush

“Another candidate ready to do the bidding of Saudi Arabia and other special interests $$$$$$$$$.......”

Yes, it is so and it is stupid.

This is going to get out of hand and we’ll all be lucky to live through it.

The russians are not expanding in Syria. They have always been there for the lat 30 years.


68 posted on 10/11/2015 12:47:37 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Poor Norm. Please don’t give Thomas Jefferson’s writings any more thought after this.

I wouldn’t want you to insult the Founding Fathers.

Giggle...


69 posted on 10/11/2015 12:48:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Just so you know, I stopped reading the content of your posts after you stupidly referred to the founders words as ‘nonsense’.

So any more posts to me will be a waste of time.


70 posted on 10/11/2015 12:49:46 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Mariner

Jordan is 90% plus Sunni.

Jordan is a monarchy.

Jordan is by treaty policing the Temple Mount. (Hatred beyond belief.)

Jordan already has an refugee crisis.

Obama-Che is on a mission to destroy ANY AND ALL US allied regime.

Obama-Che...played by Valerie Jarrett is promoting all things Shiite.

Hum-a Weiner lost. (Muslim Brotherhood/Sunni)

Valarie Jarrett won. (Iranians/Shiite)

Obama-Che...doesn’t know it yet.


71 posted on 10/11/2015 12:51:53 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: jimbo123
Turkey is part of NATO. We have a treaty obligation here. This is vastly different then establishing a NO FLY zone over Syria as Clinton/Mccain/ etc want.
72 posted on 10/11/2015 12:53:52 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Just so you’ll know, I pretty much consider every post to you a waste of time.


73 posted on 10/11/2015 12:53:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: Mariner
Turkey is part of NATO. We have a treaty obligation here. This is vastly different then establishing a NO FLY zone over Syria as Clinton/Mccain/ etc want.
74 posted on 10/11/2015 12:54:12 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Sequoyah101; jimbo123; Nextrush
Turkey is part of NATO. We have a treaty obligation here. This is vastly different then establishing a NO FLY zone over Syria as Clinton/Mccain/ etc want.

Dislike Carson all you want, don't try to lie about him.

75 posted on 10/11/2015 12:55:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MrEdd; Lurkinanloomin; Norm Lenhart

Turkey is part of NATO. We have a treaty obligation here. This is vastly different then establishing a NO FLY zone over Syria as Clinton/Mccain/ etc want.

Dislike Carson all you want, don’t try to lie about him.


76 posted on 10/11/2015 12:57:17 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: DoodleDawg
"Why not let Turkey establish the no-fly zone if they want one?"

No kidding. The way they've been parsing Carson's responses though, maybe the question was, If you were the Grand Poobah of Turkey, what would you do?

77 posted on 10/11/2015 1:01:04 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: MNJohnnie

Turkey has not been invaded and if Turkey starts a war over fly over near border incursions Turkey can damn well finish it without us.

We don’t need be involved.

If you are so convicted to start a war and defend Turkey you be the first to go. Send your own son.

And be careful who you call a liar.


78 posted on 10/11/2015 1:07:31 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Sequoyah101

No we don’t. And I don’t see how a Treaty with a country run by a Muslim is valid to begin with since their faith demands they lie to infidels and enter into treaties with the intent of breaking them when it is to their advantage to do so. A valid treaty requires good faith by all parties to it. Obviously one cannot enter into a treaty in good faith when a treaty is nothing but a means to a Taqquya end.

But then FR is filled with all manner of support for leftist crap related to this. In the last month alone we see support for the GOPe candidates that want to attack Russia, We see support for Barry’s continued arming of terrorists as long as a unicorn promises they will be used against Russia/Syria only; and we see the words of the founders warning against foreign entanglements openly called ‘Nonsense’.

So I am not really surprised to see anyone rooting for apocalypse to be honest. Lots of free-range idiocy to be found.


79 posted on 10/11/2015 1:48:39 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: jimbo123

Carson has had other great ideas too:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/03/04/dr_benjamin_carson_on_gun_control_it_depends_on_where_you_live.html

He’s nice guy, but he should never be president.


80 posted on 10/11/2015 1:51:26 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz REMAINS the only true Conservative in this race. ~~ just livin' life~~)
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