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THE MYSTERY OF POPE FRANCIS: WAS THERE A VATICAN COUP?
Powerline ^ | SEPTEMBER 27, 2015 | STEVEN HAYWARD

Posted on 09/27/2015 6:17:24 PM PDT by xzins

One thing that that has puzzled a lot of people since the selection of Pope Francis two years ago is how a left-leaning Pope could succeed two very serious conservative Popes—John Paul II and Benedict XVI—who you would have thought had stacked the ranks of the Cardinals with clergy that would perpetuate their theological and philosophical outlook. Was Benedict hounded out of office by some kind of internal Vatican scandal perhaps? Was there some ecclesiastical version of a coup?

There’s no evidence that I’m aware of—until now. Three days ago the National Catholic Register ran a very curious article about the contents of a newly published authorized biography of retired Belgian cardinal Godfried Danneels. The Register article reports:

Further serious concerns are being raised about Cardinal Godfried Danneels, one of the papal delegates chosen to attend the upcoming Ordinary Synod on the Family, after the archbishop emeritus of Brussels confessed this week to being part of a radical “mafia” reformist group opposed to Benedict XVI. . .

At the launch of the book in Brussels this week, the cardinal said he was part of a secret club of cardinals opposed to Pope Benedict XVI.

He called it a “mafia” club that bore the name of St. Gallen. The group wanted a drastic reform of the Church, to make it “much more modern”, and for Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio to head it. The group, which also comprised Cardinal Walter Kasper and the late Jesuit Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, has been documented in Austen Ivereigh’s biography of Pope Francis, The Great Reformer.

Over at The American Conservative, Rod Dreher has gone to the trouble of translating an Italian report that is even more curious:

The Italian Vaticanist Marco Tosatti writes (in Italian; I’ve modified the Google translation):

The election of Jorge Bergoglio was the result of secret meetings that cardinals and bishops, organized by Carlo Maria Martini, held for years in St. Gallen, Switzerland. This, according to Jürgen Mettepenningen et Karim Schelkens, authors of a newly published biography of the Belgian Cardinal Godfried Danneels, who calls the group of cardinals and bishops a “Mafia club”.
Danneels according to the authors, worked for years to prepare for the election of Pope Francis, which took place in 2013. Danneels, moreover, in a video recorded during the presentation of the book in Brussels, admits that he was part of a secret club of cardinals who opposed Joseph Ratzinger. Laughing, he calls it “a Mafia club that bore the name of St. Gallen”.
The group wanted a drastic reform of the Church, much more modern and current, with Jorge Bergoglio, Pope Francis, as its head. They got what they wanted. Besides Danneels and Martini, the group according to the book were part of the Dutch bishop Adriaan Van Luyn, the German cardinal Walter Kasper and Karl Lehman, the Italian Cardinal Achille Silvestrini and British Basil Hume, among others.

I underscore that this is not some secretly sourced claim, but it’s from an advance copy of Cardinal Danneels’ official biography, approved by himself.

This is the first confirmation of rumors that had been going around for years about Benedict being thwarted by a liberal conspiracy, one that eventually forced him out. These men — Danneels, Van Luyn, Kasper, Lehman, and Hume, at least — all preside over dying churches. And they killed the Benedict papacy.

This might explain a few things. . .



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To: rcofdayton

Since Pope John Paul I was murdered after 33 days in office because he was going to remove all the Marxist homomafia who had total control of the Vatican Bank, it is a WONDER that Pope John Paul II lived and was pope for the longest reign ever. Why, when he never cleaned out the corruption in the Vatican Bank?-—He allowed the homomafia to do their thing for DECADES.

I actually think that Pope Ratzinger was going to try to get back to the true Catholic Canon——but I could be wrong.

The CC is at its most corrupt in its history: It is all because the Marxist homomafia are in total control-—and have been for decades with little push-back.

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/02/fr-dariusz-okos-major-article-with-pope.html


61 posted on 09/27/2015 8:25:50 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Nervous Tick; WTFOVR

Both of you read Mark 9:38-42


62 posted on 09/27/2015 8:27:01 PM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: Lisbon1940

How so? All the 3 of the good ones are Catholic.

Doesn’t seem to me that their religion has anything to do with anything. There are conservative Catholics, and liberal scum Catholics.


63 posted on 09/27/2015 8:34:14 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: WTFOVR

There are a lot of good Catholics who sincerely believe Pope Francis “shines with the light of God”. These are not uneducated or low IQ people. They will not entertain any thought that is negative to Pope Francis or the Catholic Church, and in fact, will go to great lengths to be sure doubters are pointed out and shamed.

There doesn’t seem to be any middle ground.

Do the vast majority of Catholics misunderstand the limitations? Are they so indoctrinated into reverence for the Pope they can’t see beyond that? Or could it be the position you (and others) are taking is exaggerated?

Serious questions. I’m deeply troubled by the varied reactions.


64 posted on 09/27/2015 8:44:42 PM PDT by Helen
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To: Impy

Most of the Catholics I saw commentating this week praised aspects of the Pope’s program. I wouldn’t want that attitude infecting Scalia, Roberts, Alito or Thomas.


65 posted on 09/27/2015 8:55:02 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: xzins
Age, bad health (frailty) and termites in the ranks including those named in the article. In the early years of his papacy, St. John Paul II made many bad appointments: Bernardin, Mahoney, Daneels, and a lot more.

He also caused the current and reprehensible Archbishop of Chicago Blase Cupich to be consecrated a Bishop for Rapid City Diocese in South Dakota. Now that he has Chicago courtesy of Pope Francis, he is a slam dunk to become a cardinal at the next consistory. He is 66 and has nine years to go before he must resign and get out of our hair. I refer you to the Wikipedia article on him for the truly reprehensible facts of his awful career. He is an embarrassment to genuine Catholics everywhere. Another termite to get a red hat.

The termites think that if Francis just lasts long enough, they can get rid of all those silly moral rules, have no discipline of heretics in the hierarchy and priesthood, and somehow those inferior nearly subhuman reactionary Catholics like me will just see the error of our ways and become modernist heretics like the folks mentioned in the article. After all, the heretics are sooooo nice and soooo inclusive and sooooo welcoming to sinners galore (the kind who have no intention of ever repenting or changing).

The heretical Church "leaders" like Daneels, Madariaga, Kaspar, Marx, Silvestrini (now 92 years old) and their pals intend to change the teachings of the Church to an utterly leftist set of teachings. They will not succeed. Jesus Christ promised that they won't succeed. They are the gates of hell that will not prevail against the Church.

We need good men like xzins to join us and fight against the zeitgeist even if it means being a member of the laity.

God bless you and yours!

66 posted on 09/27/2015 8:56:47 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: batterycommander
>> the pedophile pederast priests
67 posted on 09/27/2015 9:01:46 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republican Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: xzins

Wonder if any Pope has ever been a Bilderberger ?


68 posted on 09/27/2015 9:03:24 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Impy

Ginsberg ?


69 posted on 09/27/2015 9:05:40 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: WTFOVR

how can one stay Catholic under all of this?...I’m struggling...haven’t been a regular church goer for several years but I yearn to be....but I just can’t support this stuff....


70 posted on 09/27/2015 9:08:53 PM PDT by cherry
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To: xzins

Because of his mannerisms and very softly spoken speech Pope Francis appears to me to be simple minded. Very much like the Peter Sellers character, Chance, from the movie “Being There”. Libs always apply that character to any and every republican however I feel that my observation in this case has merit. Has anyone had this same feeling?


71 posted on 09/27/2015 9:08:54 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: Churchillspirit

Douglas Ginsburg. He was nominated after Bork was voted down. Anthony Kennedy was Reagan’s third choice.


72 posted on 09/27/2015 9:09:58 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Impy

Thanks for the clarification.


73 posted on 09/27/2015 9:12:10 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Nervous Tick
mostly throughout history its been Protestants who have attacked Catholics, just like here on FR....

cast the first stone...

74 posted on 09/27/2015 9:12:31 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

Are you afraid, of anything?


75 posted on 09/27/2015 9:15:37 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Nervous Tick
that your so-called “divine appointment” is a doctrine of man

Not only a "doctrine of man," it's a doctrine of the man whom you see in the mirror. There's no claim in Catholic doctrine that the Pope is "divinely appointed".

76 posted on 09/27/2015 9:21:28 PM PDT by Campion
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To: batterycommander; xzins

I am no fan of Francis but he met with victims of priest/abusers in Philadelphia and expressed himself extensively on the subject. More likely he is avoiding ACTION on the matter because so many of the abusers are homosexual pedophiles and therefore likely to be his “progressive” supporters. They are the termites in the wooden structures of Holy Mother the Church. Benedict is a very old and frail man, He may just have lacked the stamina to fight the termites. If you understand his career and his quality, he has no fear and no reason to fear consequences. revulsion or the legal mess. He is older than was Thurgood Marshall when he resigned from SCOTUS telling reporters that he was old and tired and wanted the chance to rest.


77 posted on 09/27/2015 9:22:58 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

So, what is the excuse you are proffering?


78 posted on 09/27/2015 9:25:41 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: xzins

No, Benedict XVI would not resume his papacy. He is retired now and until he dies. When Francis dies, there will be another conclave and I bet they won’t repeat the mistake made by the conclave that elected. We need a young, healthy, rigorously orthodox pope who has the backbone to purge the bad guys.


79 posted on 09/27/2015 9:29:06 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: RedHeeler

Also read The Final Conclave also by late Fr. Malachi Martin.


80 posted on 09/27/2015 9:31:53 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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