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NYT/CBS Poll: Carson, Trump in Statistical Dead Heat
Newsmax ^ | september 15, 2015 | Cathy Burke

Posted on 09/15/2015 6:54:50 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Retired pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson has pulled to within 4 points of GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump, a new poll shows.

In the New York Times/CBS News survey released Tuesday, Trump maintains the lead of the presidential pack, with 27 percent support. But Carson is within striking distance, at 23 percent, which is within the margin of error, making it a statistical dead heat.Carson's rise compared with his polling at 6 percent support in the pre-Aug. 6 debate Times/CBS News survey; Trump was at 24 percent in that earlier poll, showing Carson's gains the most significant in that time frame, the poll shows.

Far behind the leaders were former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, all tied for third place with 6 percent.

Bush's support, however, has plummeted from the 13 percent he got in the August Times/CBS News survey – while Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker finished with just 2 percent, down from his previous 10 percent support.

The declines in support for Bush and Walker were the largest in the survey, the poll shows.

In other findings: Carson drew more support from college graduates than Trump, while men, evangelical voters and those without a college education were more likely to favor Trump. Carson is the only candidate to whom Trump would lose a theoretical head-to-head matchup.

The poll's release comes a day before the second Republican presidential debate in California, where Trump will retain center-stage, but Carson will be afforded a bigger spotlight.

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To: Guenevere
Spin is funny here. This is the result of three weeks of the GOPe pouring money and effort into Carson as a firewall to Trump. But Trump has increased his lead in IA (a little) and in other national polls is extending his lead.

Moreover, I don't think any of the current Carson polls have yet reflected his amnesty comments, which should consign him to the teens very soon.

21 posted on 09/15/2015 7:04:59 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: FreeAtlanta

Carson will just like Romney. he won’t attack Hillary..too nice!


22 posted on 09/15/2015 7:04:59 AM PDT by ground_fog
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To: Tulane

Yeah, a gopE stooge and race pimp. carson, aka “plan B when Jeb quits”.

A illegals lover, racist and gun grabber. What’s not to love about the plan 2 for the GOPe...unless liberal white guilt is at play here ;)


23 posted on 09/15/2015 7:05:29 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Genoa

Trump did a great job debunking this media spin last night in Dallas.

Don’t remember exact text but he mocked media now running with “surging Ben Carson” headlines even though Trump gained as much as Carson has in some polls the past month.

Ben Carson is a good guy. If he is the nominee, I’m obviously voting for him. That said, I think right now half his support are from people fearful of Trump who are trying to latch on to anything to slow Trump’s momentum.


24 posted on 09/15/2015 7:05:50 AM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: InterceptPoint

>> Carson will, in the long run, turn out to look a lot more like Romney then Cruz.

Yep. Only maybe a lot more like OBAMA than Cruz.

Remember how good Colin Powell once looked (on paper)? And what a black liberation center-left squish he actually turned out to be?

I fear Carson would just be another One Big Ass Mistake, America.


25 posted on 09/15/2015 7:05:51 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: samtheman

Elsewhere FReepers have been advised to stick a fork in him.


26 posted on 09/15/2015 7:06:11 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: ground_fog

Yup/ He’s the Michael Steele version 2015 and also known as black Romney.


27 posted on 09/15/2015 7:06:15 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: boycott

Exactly, they are desperate to unordered Trump. These libs know that if he is elected that the path to total Dem dominance of the country via massive immigration won’t happen...and they k ow he will beat Hillary or Plugs.


28 posted on 09/15/2015 7:06:23 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: pocat
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29 posted on 09/15/2015 7:06:47 AM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: sitetest

‘I could vote for Ben.’

Bc what America needs right now is another racist leader.


30 posted on 09/15/2015 7:07:00 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Hojczyk

Something about these Carson poll numbers
doesn’t feel right.


31 posted on 09/15/2015 7:07:12 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: max americana

Sure you’re not talking about Trump?


32 posted on 09/15/2015 7:08:49 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Hojczyk

Boy oh boy...the establishment types are pushing Ben hard!


33 posted on 09/15/2015 7:09:42 AM PDT by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Genoa

‘Somebody is trying a little too hard to put the best possible face on Carson’s chances.’

If it was Carson 27 and Trump 23, would the headline tout a dead heat?

Haha. No.


34 posted on 09/15/2015 7:09:42 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Hojczyk
Carson is the only candidate to whom Trump would lose a theoretical head-to-head matchup.

Huh??

If Carson is so formidable, how come he has never beaten Trump in a single poll? Not one, not even close!

Big Gay Media is clearly trying to play the voters here, in a desperate attempt to stop Trump. Another fine example of why most people simply don't trust Big Gay Media.


35 posted on 09/15/2015 7:09:49 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Hojczyk

RNC might be doing a little operation chaos just to prove the GOP (gang of parasites) isn’t WASICIST :-)


36 posted on 09/15/2015 7:09:51 AM PDT by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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To: VanDeKoik

“And we already have people here ready to latch onto Carson as their last hope. LOL!

And they are the same ones who think Sarah Palin will ride in ( maybe kinda like the busty babe on TV who’s selling the “War” video game) and “save” us all. WWJD.


37 posted on 09/15/2015 7:09:54 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Hojczyk

Carson is the anti Trump with respect to political correctness. He is GOPe.

The only thing about Carson that sets him apart is that he’s black. Otherwise his ideology is squish and pander. If he had conservative stones he would be a strong candidate, but he is afraid of making cultural judgements, and that is the single most important thing that needs doing if this country is to continue. The leftist grievance group balkanization has got to be crushed forever.

LEX REX under God must be the foundation of American culture again.


38 posted on 09/15/2015 7:10:05 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Hojczyk

“The margin of error for the sample of 376 Republican primary voters is 6 percentage points.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-poll-donald-trump-still-leads-but-ben-carson-makes-strong-gains/


39 posted on 09/15/2015 7:11:01 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: timestax

Yup. This is nothing more than the Slimes and SeeBS engaging in a variant of Operation Chaos.


40 posted on 09/15/2015 7:11:05 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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