KORAN DISCOVERY ONLY STRENGTHENS ISLAM

Frontpagemag.com ^ | September 4, 2015 | Raymond Ibrahim

[Biggirl]

The media is abuzz with news that a portion of the Koran, which Muslims believe was first recited by their prophet, Muhammad, may actually predate Muhammad himself. Many seem to think that such news will have a large impact on the Muslim world and make Muslims rethink the veracity of their faith.

[Cowboy Bob]

So, Mohammed plagiarized?

[Misterioso]

Islam is a birth defect.

[DoughtyOne]

Members of Islam think? Now there’s an oxymoron for ya.

[Yosemitest]

If you want a detailed history of "Mohammed's History" (spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc.) then watch William Federer explain it, from Jan. 25, 2012 at CC Chino Hills, CA. It's a MUST WATCH for everyone,Christians, Athiests and even Muslims!

This Video exposes the "Hidden Truths" and "Goals" behind Radical Islamic Muslims! - (EVEN WORSE);

How Muslims "Justify" their "Actions" of Hatred & Evil -
These hidden truths are "FACTS" and have not changed over the past 1,400 years!
(#1) Immigrate into Foreign Lands
(#2) Increase the Muslim Population
(#3) Eliminate (kill) Everyone who Opposes Islam, Mohemmed and Allah!

It's one hour, thirty-two minuites and 26 seconds long, but it's worth your time.
Watch and learn Mohammed's History - Exposing Islam's "Hidden Truths" - Of Radical Muslims.

Also read ISLAM--Religion of Peace?

Click here to view Books by WILLIAM FEDERER from Amazon.com.

I remember our Heavenly Father telling us HOW to handle other religions,
how to show the proper reaction to their false gods.

Read how"Elijah mocked them, and said,
Cry aloud: for he is a god;
either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey,
or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked"

Also:

Bring out thy son, that he may die:
because he hath cast down the altar of Baal,
and because he hath cut down the grove that was by it.
And Joash said unto all that stood against him,
Will ye plead for Baal?
will ye save him?
he that will plead for him,
let him be put to death whilst it is yet morning:
if he be a god,
let him plead for himself,
because one hath cast down his altar.
Therefore on that day he called him Jerubbaal, saying,
Let Baal plead against him,
because he hath thrown down his altar. "

Here's a great example of responding to those followers of FALSE gods.
Jerubbaal and Joash of Judges 6 and Judges 7 are well worth your time.

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

Moslems and islam are totally irrational, so this won’t make the slightest difference.

[Robert DeLong]

So sad but true:

But of course, while Western academics, politicians, and media can openly discuss this issue of the Koran’s dating—after all, it’s “scientific”—criticizing the Koran from a moral point of view, which is what’s needed here, remains unthinkable (remember: morality is relative in the West).

And so, when all is said and done, the mantra that “Islam is peace” will continue to be chanted mindlessly in the West

[tet68]

Moslems, islam, and democrats are totally irrational, so this won’t make the slightest difference.

At this point...anyway.

[Yosemitest]

Remember what our Heavenly Father said:

... HIS HAND WILL BE AGAINST EVERY MAN,
and EVERY MAN'S HAND AGAINST HIM;
and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren ...

Muslims are well know for lying about their faith.

MUSLIMS are allowed to LIE and deceive NON MUSLIMS, if it benefits or protects ISLAM.
Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."

Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"

Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"

Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
Posted by Atheist

For a better understanding of the issue, read HISTORY of Mohammed ( spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc. ).

[moovova]

"...there is very little that Western scholars and scientists can do or say about Islam that would have much influence on the Islamic mindset. 

[pgkdan]

biump

[Mrs. Don-o]

That is patent. Plagiarized and distorted.

[OldSmaj]

It makes no difference.

A copy of the quran could be found fossilized in the crap of a dinosaur and they'd still insist it was the word of mohamhead.

As far as questioning the veracity of their religion...will any muslim scholar (now that IS an oxymoron) come forth and question the word of mohamhead?

No...to do so would invite the fatwas of the ayatollahs and the radicalized imams and would be summarily dismissed as attempts to discredit the worlds most beautiful religion.

And I wouldn't be surprised to see obie wan dipshit issue a fatwa, uh, er, an Executive Order, discounting any and all accounts of anything that might discredit mohamhead.

[jjotto]

Looks like a rehash of information covered in the 1977 book ‘Hagarism: The Making of the Islamic World’ by Patricia Crone and Michael Cook.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Hagarism:_The_Making_of_the_Islamic_World

[cicero2k]

This is why I proposed that Europe, if they want to accomodate Muslem refugees, must sterilize birth age women as a condition. That way, the reproduction curve is set back enough so that the new generation is Westernized and reproduces at a similar rate.

[Biggirl]

Not going to happen.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Ishamel was not a Muslim.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Ishmael was not a Muslim.

[The_Reader_David]

So, Mohammed plagiarized?

Maybe, maybe not.

There is a firm tradition among Arab Christians that Mohammed started as a Christian missionary to the pagan Arabs, sent by the Assyrian Church of the East, who went rogue and set up as a warlord. This tradition received support from textual analyses of the "received" text of the Qu'ran used by modern Muslims that show passages of it, which are nonsense in Arabic and thus the subject of all manner of fanciful interpretation by Muslim jurists, are prefectly sensible East Syriac, the language of worship of the Church of the East.

I have observed that the Assyrian bishop of what is now Kirkuk at the time Mohammed began his preaching was one Mar Gabriel, and that there is an ancient custom in the Christian East of calling the local bishop the "angel" of his church (attested in the title of the Orthodox Bishop of Bosra and Haran, "the Angel of Haran" and in the Apocalypse of St. John, addressed to the angels of the churches of Asia Minor). If my surmise is correct, then before he went rogue, when Mohammed said he had received a message from the angel Gabriel, he was just saying he'd gotten this from his bishop, not asserting that the Bodiless Power who had visited the Virgin Mary at the Annunciation was talking to him.

The passages may not have been plagiarized, just passed on per instructions, then incorporated into the whole body of the text most of which was generated after Mohammed set up on his own to justify his predations.

[mountainlion]

He captured Hebrew scribes and forced them to write his koran. God even got some messages like the Bible Codes in the koran.