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The War on Air Conditioning Heats Up Is Climate Control Immoral?
FEE ^ | 13 Aug 15 | SARAH SKWIRE

Posted on 08/14/2015 10:00:59 AM PDT by rey

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To: rey

I'll never get used to the oddballs and weirdos on Free Republic. Sure, there are plenty of nutty Liberals out there, but there are just as many kooks on our side.

There are actually TWO people on this thread that have stated that they haven't had air conditioning in their homes in decades. WTF?

From no air conditioning to other Freeper weirdos that haven't watched a damn movie in the past 30 years, to some folks that can't so much as make a ham sandwich or cross the street without quoting scripture, our side certainly has its kooks.

41 posted on 08/14/2015 10:22:49 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: ridesthemiles

Living in the high desert of Nevada, I can understand you. I only used fans when I lived at Ft. Huachuca, AZ. However out here in humid and high alergen Washington DC, I consider AC as a necessity if I’m going to have clear sinuses and few headaches. And, as I’ve grown older, my reaction to the pollen out here has increased.


42 posted on 08/14/2015 10:23:23 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: rey

Is the Pope no longer using AC in the Vatican? Is Algore now flying commercial and living in a modest 3500 sq ft mansion?


43 posted on 08/14/2015 10:23:29 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Megyn made the debate about her petty gripe. She failed miserably. She choked, choked like a dog!)
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To: rey
What is with this Pope? I'm getting sick of him promoting stupid unproven crap. Isn't he supposed to be talking to God and being a spiritual leader for his millions of blind followers?

This why I don't and never have believed in organized religion even as a young child who went to Sunday School. Well at least he isn't promoting enslaving, raping, torturing, butchering people as Islam does.

Still, and with due respect to Catholics, I don't give one dime what the Pope has to say. Someone please explain to me why a secret group of Cardinals vote in some favorite guy who supposedly will have a direct connection to God. What? God's will? Puhlease. It's always been a political/personality contest in the Catholic Church.

I want to believe. Organized religion doesn't make it easy, especially with all their inane rituals. I can talk to my Creator without all the mumble-jumble. I doubt he is so petty as to need such. My not so humble opinion.

44 posted on 08/14/2015 10:23:30 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Out in dry areas like Nevada and Arizona, Swamp Coolers are used as the low humidity makes air conditioning inefficient. I learned that when I was at Ft. Huachuca, AZ; however my quarters didnt have either AC or a swamp cooler, just several fans.

see also my post #42


45 posted on 08/14/2015 10:26:26 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Crazieman

Funny...notice that all the people who died in Europe in that bad heat wave in 2003 never comes up?


46 posted on 08/14/2015 10:27:24 AM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: rey

Not only is AC immoral, so is any devise that heats ... better to bake or freeze to death than allow climate change ... this follows as both UV reflective eye wear and suntan lotion were also declared immoral and should be banned.

Not vanity, but hubris ...


47 posted on 08/14/2015 10:28:22 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: rey

They really do wamt it.

We will indeed bring it.

They will not be pleased.

Or alive.


48 posted on 08/14/2015 10:29:02 AM PDT by Da Coyote (Di)
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To: rey

Air conditioning is a fine example of taking dominion. It is included as one of the many blessings of obedience to the dominion mandate along with: indoor plumbing, indoor heat, availability of electricity, modern medicine, air travel, music recordings, F350 4door 4x4 long bed turbo diesel, 300 Winchester magnum ammunition, micro breweries, Pringles, and pushup bras. Just like anything else air conditioning can be used for evil or for good, but its existence is evidence of human obedience to God.


49 posted on 08/14/2015 10:29:37 AM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Why does not having air conditioning make you a kook?

Or not liking movies or ham sandwiches for that matter?

My house was built during World War I, obviously without air conditioning. Nobody thought to add it (including me) until my furnace died and the package replacement deal made it a no-brainer.

Of course I’m in Pittsburgh, where summers aren’t exactly Houston or Phoenix. It should be the individual’s choice...not the Pope’s or a global government.


50 posted on 08/14/2015 10:29:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rey
compares it unfavorably to the European willingness to sweat through the heat of summer,

"Willingness"? Interesting spin on that.

In 2003, over 70,000 died in Europe's heat wave. I guess they were "willing" to die.

In 2006 and 2012, two of the worst North American heat waves of the last century... including 500,000 without power for extended periods... 252 total dead. I guess the extra 69,748 Americans who lived were not "willing" to contribute.

In 2006, over 1000 dead in July alone, in the Netherlands alone. (Same population as VA and NJ combined) They clearly were "willing", too. If only we stupid Americans would wake up and be more dead like Europeans.

51 posted on 08/14/2015 10:29:50 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: SandRat
What bout using torn up sections of magazines.catalogs,books,news papers for TP instead of commercially produced TP.

That's ridiculous. All you need to do is follow Sheryl Crow's advice to use one square of TP per dump. Problem solved.

52 posted on 08/14/2015 10:29:53 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

I’ve just turned 50 and grew up without air conditioning. Coming home to a hot house in the afternoon was unpleasant, but nights were nice. The breeze, the outdoor night sounds, even the scents. Of course this was outer suburban verging upon rural, with a whole house attic fan.

People do tend to keep their homes almost refrigerated as do offices and businesses. It’s their right, imho. But, the older I get, the less I like a frigid, air conditioned space in hot weather. I have mine at home set on 75, and would do without on all but the hottest days if it weren’t for the humidity here. You never acclimate to the outdoor temps for one, making it more miserable than it would be otherwise.

It’s getting difficult to keep the bill below $150.00 a month, too. Not that long ago I could cut my electric bill to less than $70.00 by raising the thermostat to 78 in summer or lowering it to 66 in winter, not so anymore.


53 posted on 08/14/2015 10:30:17 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: rey

Look at the older movies before Air Conditioning (A/C) was a standard and unremarkable. Desk fans were everywhere. I remember getting close to our hassock floor fan on the hot days. In the dry climates, there were swamp coolers and in humid places, houses had deep porches, high ceilings and window awnings.

Now, after 2 generations of A/C, many of those design features and habits have disappeared. Cinderblock apartments and homes without A/C will lead to the same kind of heat emergencies as struck Western Europe several years ago and multiple times in NYC & Northeast last century.

What is lost in these neo-Luddite screeds is that technology is working. A Central A/C older than 15 years is only 2/3s as efficient as a new one. New tech is also starting to look at internal baffles to cool minimally in the areas that are unoccupied and more where people are.

What scares me is that the EPA is filled with bureaucrats that have this Luddite mindset. They would keep pushing power requirements in the terms of energy efficiency to the point of impracticality. The best solution there would be for the EPA Buildings and the homes of the senior managers to abide by their own rulings. Let them sweat it out!


54 posted on 08/14/2015 10:31:21 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: ridesthemiles

You must not have allergies. We installed duct work and central air after moving to a house without it. In our previous air conditioned home our son had some symptoms and about two asthma attacks each week. We moved here and his symptoms were aggravated and he began having three or more asthma attacks a day. His doc prescribed the a/c for tax purposes, we installed it and immediately things were under control again. Those first few years without it were misery.

Drier, filtered air isn’t just for comfort. Trips to the ER because asthma meds aren’t cutting it is a dangerous way for a child to live.


55 posted on 08/14/2015 10:31:29 AM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: Made In The USA

“Is there A/C in the private residence of the Pope?”

Is the Pope Catholic?


56 posted on 08/14/2015 10:32:38 AM PDT by Polynikes (Ahh You teal da money. We talk to you then. Hombre - 1967)
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To: rey

They speak of air conditioning and climate control as something that only rich people have.

Have they never heard of old people succumbing to the hear during heat waves in urban areas all over the country. When they collapse and die by who knows how many because society didn’t want too much electricity used, will they then decry that? Who will they blame?

Meanwhile they fly at 30K ft and above in their G5s, G6s, 7X7s in climate controlled comfort slapping together their next self-righteous speech.


57 posted on 08/14/2015 10:33:27 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: henkster

I’ve talked to people in Central Florida that offer daily prayers to St. Willis of Carrier for the continued protection of their air conditioning.

CC


58 posted on 08/14/2015 10:34:39 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof)
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To: rey

I’m in Texas and I keep my thermostat at 69°. I don’t give a hoot how much the electric bill is!


59 posted on 08/14/2015 10:35:34 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither)
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To: rey

Here in Central Louisiana, we have just gone through a week where the heat index was over 110 degrees F., with an 80% or more humidity index, to add in, and no rain.

I live in an apartment complex. The area is conducive to intermittent power drop-outs. It is after all hurricane country. When i do open the windows, during those times, the apt. does not go below 82 degrees, inside.

Now, if some idiot in Italy, who i care naught about, wishes to start calling air conditioning a ‘sin’, i would gladly invite him to come visit in the mid-July to mid-August period, in all of his fancy multi-layered threads, when the air conditioning is off, where i would give him a cup of faucet water to share the heat.


60 posted on 08/14/2015 10:37:51 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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