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What the Guy Who Paid $50,000 to Kill Cecil Can Learn from Guy Who Paid $350,000 to Kill Black Rhino
Reason ^ | July 31, 2015 | Katherine Mangu-Ward

Posted on 08/01/2015 10:07:38 AM PDT by EveningStar

Full title:
Here's What the Guy Who Paid $50,000 to Kill Cecil the Lion Can Learn from the Guy Who Paid $350,000 to Kill a Black Rhino
Done right, paid hunts for endangered animals can be a huge boon for conservation


... the problem isn't that Palmer paid a lot of money to hunt a lion, it's that he didn't pay enough money, he paid it to the wrong people, and he killed the wrong lion ...

American Corey Knowlton paid $350,000 for a permit to hunt a black rhino in Namibia under the auspices of the Dallas Safari Club back in January 2014. Black rhinos are critically endangered, and Knowlton received death threats after the permit auction, but the details of his hunt are likely to win over all but the most ardent hunting opponents.

For starters, the money will go to fight poaching. (That's right: this pay-to-play hunt will help fund efforts to prevent exactly the kind of crappy practices used by Palmer's team) The permit from the Namibian government authorized only the killing of one of 18 elderly male black rhinos, which are actually considered a net negative for overall species survival, since they are past their breeding years but remain territorial and are therefore a threat to the younger males. Knowlton and his well-vetted team whittled that list to just four animals and were obsessively carefully about finding the right rhino to kill ...

(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cecil; cecilthelion; conservation; hunting; wildlife

1 posted on 08/01/2015 10:07:38 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

They’ve both in the wrong business. Everyone knows the real money is in human baby parts - and there seems to be no shortage of them.


2 posted on 08/01/2015 10:13:21 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: EveningStar

We should be farming some of these endangered animals and follow these guy’s example:

http://www.texashuntlodge.com

I hate to choke out this sentence but “the government should ‘allow’ us to raise Lions here in the states for hunting and repopulating them.”

I hate the fact that OUR government has been a impediment to the entrepreneurs in Texas who run “game farms” in Texas that are doing more to prevent extinction than the sissy ass libs in big cities.


3 posted on 08/01/2015 10:17:00 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: EveningStar

Oh My God! The title and author of this piece is so blatantly racist! He calls the lion Cecil by name, but when talking about a BLACK Rhino, it’s just a damn Black Rhino.


4 posted on 08/01/2015 10:30:18 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Carthego delenda est
The title and author of this piece is so blatantly racist! He calls the lion Cecil by name, but when talking about a BLACK Rhino, it’s just a damn Black Rhino.

In Spanish it would be "Rhino Negro".

5 posted on 08/01/2015 11:01:43 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Resistance to Tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: EveningStar

I have nothing against hunting, but $50,000? $350,000? I think I would have used that money much differently.


6 posted on 08/01/2015 11:08:29 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

My uncle has made custom big game rifles since the 50s. For the past 25 years, he has had just 2 clients that he builds for. These guys don’t bat an eye over a $25,000 rifle or spending a couple hundred thousand a year to hunt.

One is a licensed pharmacist who also owns a high end jewelry store in Chicago.

The other is, ironically, a dentist.


7 posted on 08/01/2015 11:27:33 AM PDT by digger48
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To: GraceG

I hunt deer, dove and quail when I’m fortunate enough to get the opportunity-I only hunt what I intend to eat-I don’t see doing it for any other reason, and I don’t give a crap about trophies...

If rich fools want to pay to sit in a vehicle and shoot a semi-tame animal in an enclosure and call it a “hunt”, then that is fine. I personally have no use for anyone who does what ordinary rural people call “canned hunts”, or “feed-and-shoot”-I consider it animal cruelty, and I don’t associate with people who are cruel to animals-they are not usually nice to people, either-and those people don’t often eat what they kill.

If you do not go into the field, stalk, walk and track a “real” wild animal in its environment, it does not meet the definition of a hunt-the only thing those dilettantes hunt for is a glass of wine to drink while they pretend they are roughing it-and most of those “hunters” ARE the sissy ass bunch from the cities.

Importing predator animals for sport can go badly wrong and devastate the natural population of animals and food-it happened when European boars were brought to the South and Southwest for sport hunting-now the f’ing things are everywhere, destroying crops and wild habitat, not to mention that they will attack humans and livestock-at least they are good to eat. Let’s not have lions here unless they are on a securely fenced reserve, for breeding and looking at, please...


8 posted on 08/01/2015 12:07:29 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: vladimir998

“I would have used that money much differently.”

Those guys think they are buying a set of cojones with it-a man secure in his masculinity doesn’t need to do that...


9 posted on 08/01/2015 12:10:20 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: EveningStar

Black RINO ? Somebody killed Colon Blow ?

10 posted on 08/01/2015 12:29:50 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: EveningStar

Read last night that Cecil’s brother Jericho had adopted his 4 cubs. Read this afternoon that Jericho was killed today. Poaching is wrong, but 1 out of 8 male lion cubs die within 2 years.

I’m more worried about God’s wrath because our nation allows child sacrifice.


11 posted on 08/01/2015 1:28:48 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Carthego delenda est
...when talking about a BLACK Rhino, it’s just a damn Black Rhino.

Trump simply refers to them as "The Blacks", and claims he has a great relationship with them.

Go, Donald.

;-)

12 posted on 08/01/2015 1:40:21 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Today's Democrats are much more Fascist than Communist; but Sen Joe McCarthy was still right.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You are sooooooooo ...clever.


13 posted on 08/01/2015 2:32:37 PM PDT by Dartman (Canadian, eh. And proud of it.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

“Oh My God! The title and author of this piece is so blatantly racist! He calls the lion Cecil by name, but when talking about a BLACK Rhino, it’s just a damn Black Rhino”

Fortunately, the rhino was unarmed. Unlike our RINOs who are unbrained.


14 posted on 08/01/2015 3:39:29 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: GraceG

While I kinda agree that ‘lion-ranches’ in the US might help the population...can you imagine the anxiety in most American urban areas if you brought this up? Even if you went ultra-rural into Tennessee...someone would eventually make up a anti-lion-ranch measure and require millions in fencing to convince the public it was safe.

Even in Africa....if you consider that roughly 250 people a year die from Lion attacks....there’s not a thrilling amount of support from the local populations over lions expanding their base and population. If you merely doubled the current Lion population in Africa....you’d probably see well over 500...maybe even 800...people killed. Who wants that?


15 posted on 08/02/2015 11:20:38 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: digger48

All of this hub-bub over a lion makes me think there is an agenda. Once I saw the Trump sons with their safari kills I thought that was it.

However, now I’m thinking it has to do with obamacare and the medical profession. Seriously. This guy a dentist, that other guy a gynocologist, etc.


16 posted on 08/02/2015 11:30:17 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: pepsionice

[ While I kinda agree that ‘lion-ranches’ in the US might help the population...can you imagine the anxiety in most American urban areas if you brought this up? Even if you went ultra-rural into Tennessee...someone would eventually make up a anti-lion-ranch measure and require millions in fencing to convince the public it was safe.

Even in Africa....if you consider that roughly 250 people a year die from Lion attacks....there’s not a thrilling amount of support from the local populations over lions expanding their base and population. If you merely doubled the current Lion population in Africa....you’d probably see well over 500...maybe even 800...people killed. Who wants that? ]

Maybe a “Lion Island” would work better, take a Caribbean island that is more grassy than tree-ey and build a giant Lion habitat there, like Jurassic park...


17 posted on 08/03/2015 2:00:51 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: GraceG
**Maybe a “Lion Island” would work better, take a Caribbean island that is more grassy than tree-ey and build a giant Lion habitat there**

Good thing lions can't swim.

18 posted on 08/03/2015 2:14:43 AM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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