Posted on 06/26/2015 6:44:55 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
To really understand Marines, you need to know something about Belleau Wood. On June 6, 1918, the 4th Marine Brigade began its offensive into Belleau Wood in France, marking arguably the most significant day in the history of the U.S. Marine Corps. More Marines died that day than in the 143 years of Marine Corps history that had preceded it — combined. But it is not the magnitude of that sacrifice, or even the military objectives that were accomplished, that define the significance of that day; rather, it was the cultural impact that event had on the Marine Corps.
The Marines did not belong in an organization made up almost entirely of U.S. Army troops, but their commandant, Major General George Barnett, and the Secretary of the Navy, Josephus Daniels, had worked hard to find a way to get them there, often by going around the War Department. Ultimately, two regiments’ worth of well-trained professional troops was not something the Army could afford to pass up, for it was struggling to quickly mobilize and deploy a massive force for war. The 5th and 6th Marine Regiments had been assembled from a blend of experienced Marine veterans and new recruits, and were ready to go. Arriving in France, they were assigned to the 2d Division, alongside the Army’s 3rd Brigade, and designated the 4th Brigade. They insisted on referring to themselves as the 4th Brigade (Marine).
The Marine Corps had placed a premium on marksmanship skills in recruit and pre-deployment training…
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Source?
Of course not.
Are you drunk or something, you don’t understand someone correcting the Devil dog myth, as just a routine fact check correction?
I was home schooled and had a very intense reading list part of which was military. I read about the Marines from their first inception until the later days. My dad was a Marine pilot in Vietnam and he schooled me on Marine history. Thanks. Janey
OK, you make a claim. Give a reference or a cite.
I went to the Naval Academy, class of 81. The library had an archive that had original documents that anyone could read. I read the rainbow plans and Pete Ellis's plans for the Pacific. I also read battle dispatches from WWI (rain crumpled and discolored with mud). I don't remember the details, but "Teufel Hunden" or "Hounds from Hell" were mentioned. Remember, these weren't the kind of men that felt that they had to brag. They used words sparingly, and cursed "with a southern drawl." Their fighting ability did not require them to make stuff up. So something happened. That there is not an email or an offical report does not mean that it did not occur.
It is one thing to say that there is no official evidence and another to say "fake history.'
Fake History, made up, a myth.
Three times you have made this claim without offering
so much as one link to support your position.
One would be ok, but if you have more, lets see them.
No greater love.
They didn't create the myth. It seems to have come from journalist Floyd Phillips Gibbons.
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You are a liar.
Here are all of my posts on that thread, in total, on the entire thread
To: ConorMacNessa
A toast to the United States Army
61 posted on 11/9/2013, 7:22:51 PM by ansel12
To: ConorMacNessa
The Doolittle Raiders were the U.S. Army.
73 posted on 11/9/2013, 8:19:12 PM by ansel12
To: ConorMacNessa
That doesn’t look very Army to me.
77 posted on 11/9/2013, 8:27:53 PM by ansel12
“But Bob Aquilina of the Marine Corps History Division says there is no credible evidence that German troops dubbed their Marine adversaries “Devil Dogs.”
“The term very likely was first used by Marines themselves and appeared in print before the Battle for Belleau Wood,” Aquilina said in an e-mail. “It gained notoriety in the decades following World War I and has since become a part of Marine Corps tradition.”
Indeed, a Marine Corps magazine, reported in April 1918 that Germans referred to Marines as “teufel hunden,” two months before Belleau Wood, according to Aquilina. The word “Teufelhunden” is a combination of the German words for “devil” and “dogs,” or “Teufel” and “Hunde.” But the possessive form of “Teufel” is “Teufels,” and the plural of “Hund” is “Hunde,” not “Hunden,” suggesting that whoever came up with the word wasn’t a native German speaker.
The National Museum of the Marine Corps refers to the origin of the term “Devil Dogs” as tradition, which is not the same as truth, said Patrick Mooney, visitor services chief at the museum.
“We have no proof that it came from German troops though tradition says it came from German troops referring to Marines,” he said. “There is no written document in German that says that the Marines are Devil Dogs or any correct spelling or language component of ‘Devil Dog’ in German.”
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Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t gonna resign.
Why are you always screaming?
You are also lying again, we didn’t have a freepmail exchange about that thread, we had zero pms about that thread.
Those three posts that I posted, was it.
If you can’t be a Marine, be all you can be.
I’ve read before where your information came from, more history rewrites from those with an agenda for reasons of their own. I’m sure there are incompetent historians as in all our professions. My uncle walked across Okinawa and I was a Marine in the largest Phantom squadron in existence during the Vietnam war. So, if you weren’t a Marine why are you commenting. I was also an engineering designer most of my life. I’ve been told my first job at Wright Patterson air force base became legend. Who are you to talk about a Marines history.
Wow who cares if it was made up or not. The marines kick the crap out of the Germans and many other since and before.
History rewrites?
“Bob Aquilina of the Marine Corps History Division”
“The National Museum of the Marine Corps refers to the origin of the term “Devil Dogs” as tradition, which is not the same as truth, said Patrick Mooney, visitor services chief at the museum.
“We have no proof that it came from German troops though tradition says it came from German troops referring to Marines,” he said. “There is no written document in German that says that the Marines are Devil Dogs or any correct spelling or language component of ‘Devil Dog’ in German.””
It was pretty much like the posts that I posted in post 30.
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