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MSNBC 'Debate' on Indiana Law: 'Cut His Mic Off!'
Townhall.com ^ | 4/1/15 | Guy Benson

Posted on 04/01/2015 2:10:40 PM PDT by Nachum

The Heritage Foundation's Ryan Anderson (with whom I happen to disagree on same-sex marriage) appeared on Ed Schultz's MSNBC program (cough) last night to discuss Indiana's religious freedom law, and the resulting conversation culminated with the host instructing producers to silence Anderson's microphone. End of Discussion:

Schultz advances one false or misleading narrative after another, then loses his composure when Anderson (or "Mr. Ryan," as Schultz calls him at one point) replies with rapid-fire factual corrections. Schultz interrupts Anderson's first answer almost immediately to contest the statement that Indiana's law is effectively the same as other RFRAs, including the federal law, which have been on the books for many years. They are, in fact, virtually identical, with two relatively minor exceptions: First, the Hoosier State's law specifies that businesses are free to use RFRA claims to defend themselves from administrative sanctions and lawsuits, and second, it allows RFRA defenses to be mounted within private legal disputes that do not directly involve the government. Anderson calmly explains that Indiana's legislative text reflects both the Supreme Court's Hobby Lobby precedent, as well as the obvious reality that organizations like the New York Times and MSNBC can exercise First Amendment rights despite being corporations. On the second small distinction, which Schultz didn't raise, four US circuit courts and the Obama DOJ have affirmed that RFRA protections can apply in cases involving private entities. Defeated on the first point, Schultz moves on: "If a gay couple walks into a restaurant, and I own it," he bellows, "you're telling me in Indiana, if I own that restaurant, that I can tell them to get the hell out of here? And you don't think that's discrimination? That's the position of the right wing, correct?" Incorrect. Anderson challenges Schultz to point out any Indiana

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1 posted on 04/01/2015 2:10:40 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

“Freedom of speech does not apply if you disagree.”


2 posted on 04/01/2015 2:12:21 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Nachum

The first amendment’s protections for the right to peacefully assemble (for the purpose of business) also include the right to NOT assemble. Therefore any law, regardless of so called “public access” or “public accommodation” that REQUIRES a private business to offer services to those which it does not want to do business with is unconstitutional.


3 posted on 04/01/2015 2:16:03 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Nachum

Because disease minded and spiritually depraved liberals have to LIE in order to advance their Satanist causes.

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2015/03/31/if-liberals-are-the-good-guys-why-do-they-lie-so-much-n1978646/page/full

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3274092/posts


4 posted on 04/01/2015 2:18:16 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Nachum

MSNBC patterned their character Ed Schultz after Bill the Cat from the old Outland comic strip
5 posted on 04/01/2015 2:19:44 PM PDT by BigEdLB (We're experienceing the rule of a Roman Emperor, Barack I)
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To: taxcontrol

Whatever happened to “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone” ???


6 posted on 04/01/2015 2:20:28 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Frank_2001
Leftists, controlling the courts and the federal legislature (either through democrats or cowardly republicans), are redefining civil rights laws so that they no longer apply in spirit to one and all, but to specific groups by name.

Gays have armies of lawyers in DC, shirtless diners don't, so they're out of luck. So are Christians.

7 posted on 04/01/2015 2:24:45 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: taxcontrol
The first amendment’s protections for the right to peacefully assemble (for the purpose of business) also include the right to NOT assemble.

That is more an argument about protesting the government. The current debate should be about our 1st Amendment right to Freedom of Association. I should be able to choose with whom I associate and/or do business.

8 posted on 04/01/2015 2:25:51 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Frank_2001

“Whatever happened to “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone” ???”

I think it went the way of, “Hey, it’s a free country!”


9 posted on 04/01/2015 2:29:09 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Nachum

Townhall exponentially amplifies Ed Schultz’ miniscule name recognition and reach: His aggregate ratings amount to a handful of low-HHI moonbats.


10 posted on 04/01/2015 2:29:53 PM PDT by golux
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To: Frank_2001

“Whatever happened to “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone” ???”

Isnt that what MSNBC has just done?


11 posted on 04/01/2015 2:31:22 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: TBP

Liberal version of “level playing field”.


12 posted on 04/01/2015 2:32:22 PM PDT by alloysteel (It isn't science, it's law. Rational thought does not apply.)
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To: Nachum

The Party of Tolerance shows its true colors yet again.


13 posted on 04/01/2015 2:33:24 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Frank_2001

It was killed by the Civil Rights Act


14 posted on 04/01/2015 2:41:19 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: pgyanke

There is no 1st amendment “freedom to associate”. What codifies the freedom to associate is the freedom to peaceful assemble clause.


15 posted on 04/01/2015 2:45:51 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Nachum

When MSNBC see’s itself loosing an argument ....


16 posted on 04/01/2015 2:55:44 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: Frank_2001

“You didn’t build that.”


17 posted on 04/01/2015 2:59:48 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Nachum

“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views,but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views”

William F. Buckley Jr.


18 posted on 04/01/2015 3:15:34 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: BigEdLB

*MSNBC patterned their character Ed Schultz after Bill the Cat from the old Outland comic strip*

I thought the Ed Schultz character was modeled after South Park’s Mr. Hankey.

“Hidey Ho!”


19 posted on 04/01/2015 3:18:13 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: skeeter

I wish we could have a protest for conservatives, like the liberals did in the 60’s. Have 5 million Conservatives descend upon Washington DC.


20 posted on 04/01/2015 3:23:22 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (The wealth gap is actually a privilege gap.)
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