Posted on 03/11/2015 11:37:45 AM PDT by C19fan
As I've said... it's a stretch... but more outlandish claims have been supported in the courts.
I sense a theme. Do you perhaps resent those more fortunate than you? It is clouding your judgment.
Yes, they have a right to free speech by the OK Constitution. I agree that, pace the Left, it's not a Federal matter.
All of these students should just claim to be “gay,” and they THEY will be giving the club to beat everyone else with.
No. A suitable punishment would be for a group of black guys to sing the lyrics to 'Hell Yeah' to him.
I think making him listen to Kanye West would have been more than sufficient.
What do you have against there being consequences for stupid behavior?
Offensive speech is protected on campus usually because thr left celebrates perversion
It's not a crime to do stupid things. The consequences should be commensurate to the offense. I'm sick of outrage and indignation over words.
“Rap lyrics call for killing whitey all the time.”
Music lyrics usually get a pass on violence.
“I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die”
“I shot the sheriff”
“Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT
(Done dirt cheap)
Neck ties, contracts, high voltage
(Done dirt cheap”
None of these are rap lyrics and are all violent and show that rap songs are not the only ones that are violent.
Do stupid things without repercussion and you continue to do stupid things. Think of it as a learning experience for them.
I’m not opposed to repercussions. Something that would give them face time with blacks. That’s why I suggested a few days in an inner city school working with the kids. I’d much rather the university expelled students who aren’t meeting academic standards.
If you speak in opposition to gay marriage, would you be OK with a bunch of gay activists kicking the crap out of you? How about a bunch of feminists ganging up on you because you expressed a pro-life sentiment?
Yes, their speech offended a bunch of people. Keep in mind that many Leftists find conservative opinions inherently offensive. As far as I'm concerned, I find conservatives who like the idea of administering beatings over opinions they dislike to be offensive.
In your immediately prior post, you had the words being "You can hang him from a tree/But he’ll never sign with me".
The student singing the words did not say that he personally desired anything beyond not signing him up.
From another article, they were a private bus which was transporting them to a party, so it was not a public communication. Somebody in their own frat (or that person's girlfriend) probably posed the video. It might be interesting if they figure out who.
your premise is absurd. this wasn’t a protest on some issue. This was white frat boys uttering racist comments in public. I never said “administer” - as if by some institution. I don’t believe they should be expelled and it is no business of institution - government or otherwise - to regulate their speech. However I certainly have no problem with black citizens on their own kicking the crap out of these racist scumbags — if they wish to. None of my business.
So you therefore also condone groups of white students kicking the crap out of any black who spouts off National of Islam talk about "white devils"? How about punching out the next gay guy who sneers about "breeders"?
I have a big issue over condoning violence in response to speech. Speech which directly and immediately calls for violence is actionable, the singing on the bus was not that.
“From another article, they were a private bus which was transporting them to a party, so it was not a public communication. Somebody in their own frat (or that person’s girlfriend) probably posed the video. It might be interesting if they figure out who.”
Oklahoma is a one party consent state meaning that only one party needs to be aware that a recording state. The private bus has nothing to do with the incident.
When the recording person is revealed (and I think the person's identity can be determined from the angle of the recording, and other frat brothers recollection of who was sitting where), then the case would revolve around whether the recording person was legitimately "a party to the conversation".
“When the recording person is revealed (and I think the person’s identity can be determined from the angle of the recording, and other frat brothers recollection of who was sitting where), then the case would revolve around whether the recording person was legitimately “a party to the conversation.”
Even with that, it will not become legal matter.
The worse they could do is to kick the person who took the video out of their defunct fraternity.
I also don’t believe they should have been expelled for exercising their right to free speech - even if offensive.
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I agree, plus they are young and prone to bad judgement. In the meantime, black on black violence continues with hardly any notice. The race industry can’t make any money from that.
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