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Obama "Very Interested" In Raising Taxes Through Executive Action (Who Can Stop Him?)
Townhall ^ | March 02, 2015 | Conn Carroll

Posted on 03/03/2015 3:12:10 AM PST by broken_arrow1

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest confirmed Monday that President Obama is "very interested" in the idea of raising taxes through unitlateral executive action.

"The president certainly has not indicated any reticence in using his executive authority to try and advance an agenda that benefits middle class Americans," Earnest said in response to a question about Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) calling on Obama to raise more than $100 billion in taxes through IRS executive action.

"Now I don't want to leave you with the impression that there is some imminent announcement, there is not, at least that I know of," Earnest continued. "But the president has asked his team to examine the array of executive authorities that are available to him to try to make progress on his goals. So I am not in a position to talk in any detail at this point, but the president is very interested in this avenue generally," Earnest finished.

Sanders sent a letter to Treasury Secretary Jack Lew Friday identifying a number of executive actions he believes the IRS could take, without any input from Congress, that would close loopholes currently used by corporations. In the past, IRS lawyers have been hesitant to use executive actions to raise significant amounts of revenue, but that same calculation has change in other federal

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To: ClearCase_guy

Mmmmm. Unity.


61 posted on 03/03/2015 4:34:10 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Obama is hell-bent on implementing everything and anything he can in the next couple of years by dictatorial order. He is more dangerous now than ever. Notice that he has the nerve to dare anyone who tries to stop him? The TYRANT must be stopped.


62 posted on 03/03/2015 4:36:20 AM PST by fivecatsandadog ("Islam is Islam. There are no modifiers. It's a political movement masquerading as a religion.")
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To: Old Sarge
What kind of body count is it going to take?

It's hard to say. You know, there have been conspiracy theories galore about FDR and his knowledge of the impending attack - from "he was unaware" to "he knew" and let it happen - to bring the US into WWII.

It really depends on the type of government - it's leader in particular. Based on what I've seen the last 6 years, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities that he would engineer some sort of conflict to declare an emergency and martial law.

63 posted on 03/03/2015 4:37:58 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities that he would engineer some sort of conflict to declare an emergency and martial law

I'm sure their plan includes a Reichstag fire.

Not sure that Obama understands that he's going to play the role of the Reichstag in the movie, though...

64 posted on 03/03/2015 4:42:10 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. .)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Now that it’s legal, can those previously arrested and subsequently imprisoned be released. It’s only fair. Those in prison are being discriminated against. It ‘s the only fair thing to do


65 posted on 03/03/2015 4:44:18 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: fivecatsandadog

Obama Dares GOP: Go Ahead, ‘Have a Vote on Whether What I’m Doing Is Legal…I Will Veto’

http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/02/dictator-obama-weve-expanded-my-authorities-obama-dares-gop-have-a-vote-i-will-veto/#P08yJaGuqcpQmsAg.99


66 posted on 03/03/2015 4:45:56 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: broken_arrow1

a presidentially mandated tax is voluntary. Just don’t pay it


67 posted on 03/03/2015 4:50:56 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert

Usually, those who have gone to jail recently have been dealer/pushers. Normal consumers get slaps on the wrist and are let go.

I have a hard time blaming any inanimate substance for sins of volition and think that doctors should have more leeway to prescribe even risky drugs, with condign precautions being taken. But the world of pushers as it was, was an ugly world. They were rarely only permissive in philosophy; they took measures to get their clients to use drugs unhealthily, which should always be deemed wrong. So it’s hard to see a blanket pardon for pushing either. It is one of those messy things that happens when public policy changes.


68 posted on 03/03/2015 4:51:19 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: outofsalt

“Am I confused or was this repealed by the Gruber amendment?”

The American people do not love the Constitution nor do they perceive anything Obama is doing limits their freedom. Likewise, the majority of members of Congress do not respect the document or the founders concept of individual liberty. The members of the ruling class in academia, politics, journalism, big business, the media, the bureaucracy, and the military are statists. Their loyalty is to self and the secular institutions on which their wealth and power is dependent, not God, Country, or Freedom.

Each of Obama’s actions is carefully calculated to permanently increase and consolidate the power of his party and the executive branch, enrage the minority conservative right, and establish precedent that fundamentally changes the relationship between the people and government. The American people no longer believe they have inalienable rights endowed by God. The majority now believe rights and benefits are granted by the central government on groups of people based on their importance to the ruling class. As we are seeing with the expansion of affirmative action for minorities and women, gay rights, and immigrant rights it is political action and loyalty to party that secures rights and status as a protected class. Other citizens without protected status are punished through taxes (expropriation of property) and loss of political power.

Consider Obama’s victories despite the election of the Republican Congress. The Republicans signed onto the big spending bill that gives him enough discretionary spending in every department except Homeland Security to do whatever he wishes. He has asserted control over the internet by decree without even a token attempt by Congress to stop him. As a result over the next two years he will shut down the voices of opposition using the internet to communicate broadly. Having easily assumed greater power for the FCC, he can turn to shut down opposition voices on talk radio.

Republicans in the Senate easily caved on the Homeland Security funding bill. Passage of this bill will give Congressional authority to Obama’s executive actions on immigration amnesty and will result in Congress permanently ceding authority over immigration and citizenship to the executive branch. The House will cave within two weeks. The courts rightly will rule Congress has delegated its authority under the Constitution to the Executive branch.

Obamacare has not been overturned or defunded in any form. Congress has the power to cut off funding even if a presidential veto would prevent them from ending the program. The Republicans will not engage in a budget battle over Obamacare.

Working through interest groups and the judiciary Obama has overturned state marriage laws so that gay marriage is fully instituted in half the states and the Supreme Court shows every indication it will write protections for homosexuals as a defined protected class into the “living” Constitution later this year. This battle is not really about gay rights. It is one more nail in the coffin of states rights and part of the plan to strip what limited powers the states have as independent governing entities. The states are being transformed into administrative districts of the federal government that levy taxes and carry out the plans and programs decreed from Washington.

The groundwork is also being established for the federal government to consolidate control of state and local law enforcement under Homeland Security and the Justice Department.

The press furor over Netanyahu’s visit is all about further diminishing Congress in the eyes of the American people and distracting them from other issues. The propaganda machine is softening up the sheep for a sellout to Iran. The Bibi speech is just one more example of the Republicans stirring up trouble while Obama is trying to make the world safe is the script being fed to the people. The reality is, the majority of the people are tuned out and don’t care.

Actually expropriation of private property (i.e. taxation) by the executive branch without the assent of the legislature has been going on for some time. Look at the fees on your telephone and cable bills which are assessed by agencies to fund free telephone and cable services for the poor (i.e. wealth redistribution). For the past six years the Justice Department has been shaking down companies (primarily banks) through lawsuits and obtaining billions of dollars in settlement money which has been arbitrarily doled out to interest groups by the administration instead of being put in the general fund. The IRS, DEA, and other federal agencies seize the property of citizens they perceive have violated laws every day without due process of law. Often the property is sold and the proceeds used before the citizen sees a day in court.

In the current environment it will be easy for Obama to decree new fees or order the IRS to eliminate credits, deductions and exemptions to the tax code. If he initially limits this executive action to corporations, there will be no opposition from the people who have been conditioned to hate capitalists. Obama’s actions will be perceived by the public as just, not overreach. Once he has usurped the power to amend the tax laws for business it is only a matter of time before he does the same to individuals. The large numbers on the Democrat plantation who pay no taxes will not care. A few in Congress may give speeches, but Congress itself will do nothing.

Through the summer we will be treated to another budget spectacle. Congress will pass spending bills telling us they are being fiscally responsible but these bills will still include billions of dollars of discretionary spending authority previous presidents would not have dreamed of getting from Congress. Obama will say, not enough, he needs more for the middle class. He is going to set the Republican Congress up for one more public battle and loss over the budget before the 2016 election season. The Republicans will either acquiesce or risk being blamed for shutting down the government. They will cave, giving Obama the discretionary spending authority to transfer billions of taxpayer dollars to the public interest groups supporting the Democrat Party and registering the now documented foreign workers to vote. The Republicans will tell conservatives they have to go along in order to win the White House in 2016.

We are living the last fifty years of the Roman Republic as it transitioned to imperial rule. Unlike the Roman Republic it appears our elected representatives will cede their authority to the executive without bloodshed. The majority of people today, like the plebes of Rome before us, cheer Caesar because he promises bread and circuses.

After all, what is freedom today for the urban dweller in blue states? Government guarantee food, clothing, shelter, television, a smart phone, basic medical care, free public education, and no limits on sexual expression. With all that, who cares about old fashioned notions of liberty defined by some 18th century slaveholders?


69 posted on 03/03/2015 4:52:52 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Soul of the South

Brutus?


70 posted on 03/03/2015 4:59:54 AM PST by bigtoona
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To: Gaffer

I’ve heard of those - it’s funny we never hear LIHOP/MIHOP applied to a Leftist president, only GWB...

And as to the rest, I utterly agree. With the number of false flags we’ve already witnessed (to say nothing of “never letting a crisis go to waste”), the pump is being primed.


71 posted on 03/03/2015 5:01:16 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: broken_arrow1

It’s time to send the boy home to Kenya.


72 posted on 03/03/2015 5:02:01 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Illegal aliens are far superior to Americans. - So say the 'RATS and RINOs.)
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To: broken_arrow1

Well Congress CAN stop him but they don’t have the balls to do so.


73 posted on 03/03/2015 5:02:30 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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To: broken_arrow1

Who are the idiots applauding him?


74 posted on 03/03/2015 5:03:01 AM PST by fivecatsandadog ("Islam is Islam. There are no modifiers. It's a political movement masquerading as a religion.")
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To: broken_arrow1

And this is why it’s better to be a pessimist, so you’re not shocked and outraged at blatantly dictatorial actions by our first communist dictator.


75 posted on 03/03/2015 5:06:05 AM PST by wastedyears (I may be stupid, but at least I'm not Darwin Awards stupid.)
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To: Soul of the South
I'd like to join Commander Riker in applauding your most excellent post:


76 posted on 03/03/2015 5:13:47 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: broken_arrow1
Sanders sent a letter to Treasury Secretary Jack Lew Friday identifying a number of executive actions he believes the IRS could take, without any input from Congress, that would close loopholes currently used by corporations.

Translation: CERTAIN corporations, whose executives have been inadequately forthcoming on campaign contributions, will face IRS scrutiny on the legitimacy of certain deductions.

77 posted on 03/03/2015 5:14:22 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: broken_arrow1

This is not unexpected, He has to raise taxes. Someone has to pay the 175 BILLION DOLLARS that the 5 million ILLEGAL ALIENS WILL RECEIVE WHEN THEY FILE FOR THEIR PRIOR YEAR REFUND CREDITS ON THEIR TAXES.


78 posted on 03/03/2015 5:17:50 AM PST by BradtotheBone (Record number of people on welfare. That's the State of the Union under Obama.)
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To: Soul of the South

Like you, I have long held to the notion that the USA is now a Nation of “bread and circuses”...by design.

There is so much truth in your post that the only thing I can think to do any longer is to pray.

Pray for myself, my family, my friends and for my compatriots everywhere that we somehow endure and survive the coming spiral into chaos.

All in order that we may rise again like the Phoenix...


79 posted on 03/03/2015 5:19:55 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: fivecatsandadog

The answer, my friend, is impeachment. Joe Biden or no Joe Biden.


80 posted on 03/03/2015 5:27:02 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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