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Democrats' 'Blue Wall' Not Impregnable to Republicans -- If They're Smart
Townhall.com ^ | February 17. 2015 | Michael Barone

Posted on 02/17/2015 4:17:04 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: sickoflibs; All

sickoflibs would nominate a Jeb Bush type just so we could appeal to the moderates and Latino voters. /sarc


21 posted on 02/17/2015 5:39:56 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Gaffer
the only way you can target the masses in those states is to propose more spending

One size never fits all. I wonder if it's possible to have a politician say I'm all for higher taxes and bigger gov and going bankrupt in the cities, and lower taxes and less gov and sound budgets in the exburbs. If they could deliver, I'd vote for them no matter their Pepsi or Coke brand. Let the cities have what they want and implode like an atomic warhead went off.

The Detroit example:


22 posted on 02/17/2015 5:41:50 AM PST by Reeses
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To: KC_Conspirator
I do not think that I will see another Republican president in my lifetime.

I disagree:

Harry S Truman 8 years, democrat.
Dwight D. Eisenhower 8 years, republican.
JFK/LBJ 8 years, democrat.
Nixon/Ford 8 years, republican.
Jimmy Carter only 4 years, democrat.
Reagan/Bush finishing Carter's last four plus the GOP 8 for 12 years, republican.
Bill Clinton 8 years, democrat.
George W. Bush 8 years, republican.
Barack Hussein Obama 8 years, communist.

Other than Carter's abject failure, we have alternated with the socialists every eight years. My guess - we'll go GOP in 2016 for eight years. If we elect a conservative firebrand, America may survive. If we elect a RINO, America will die in abject poverty and misery during the next liberal 8 year cycle. This is by far the most dangerous time in America's history. We cannot afford a weak candidate who will merely hold the line on government encroachment into our lives. We must elect someone who will roll back the creeping (and creepy) misery of FedGov overreach.

23 posted on 02/17/2015 5:42:36 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Understood. I think he could clear it all up though with an official stated position on it that won’t change for the next two years. Here’s hoping.


24 posted on 02/17/2015 5:45:14 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

“All Walker needs to do is to categorically establish a clear position on it. Say that he is against legalizing illegals that are here (illegally) and not for allowing any of them to obtain citizenship in any fashion.”

He did that in the interview with Bret Baier a while back.


25 posted on 02/17/2015 5:45:25 AM PST by Beagle8U (NOTICE : Unattended children will be given Coffee and a Free Puppy.)
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To: Pollster1

I hope your right, but I am just doing analysis. I just post Cold War presidential elections and they don’t look good. Also, our country was in paltry shape in 2012, especially the economy, yet buffoons ate up the media fed lies and re-elected an epic fail of an administration.


26 posted on 02/17/2015 5:49:27 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: central_va; ohioWfan; All; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
RE:”sickoflibs would nominate a Jeb Bush type just so we could appeal to the moderates and Latino voters. /sarc”

Yep, I am a regular old Bush-bot, everybody knows that, especially OWF

‘HE KEPT US SAFE’

27 posted on 02/17/2015 5:49:42 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: Kaslin

I figure that Hillary will probably win all of the Kerry states. They were worth 252 back in the previous decade, but now they’re worth 246. Hillary will probably do a tiiiiiny bit better than Obama did among working class white voters and females, which should help her hold onto those Rust Belt states.

Nevada & New Mexico look like they’ve been invaded successfully by Obama’s “Dreamers.” That’s another 11.. 257EVs.

So they need 13 more out of VA(13)/NC(15)/FL(27)/OH(18)/IA(7)/CO(9).

We need to drive conservative turnout like no other year ever.

George H.W. Bush got over 400 electoral votes with 61% of the white vote. Mitt Romney got half of that with 61% of the white vote. We have to find a way to appeal to non-white voters - but as far as I’m concerned, the country isn’t worth saving if it takes selling our souls.


28 posted on 02/17/2015 5:50:12 AM PST by MarkRegal05
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To: Reeses

To my mind, Federal Government has no business in creating jobs, supporting or bailing out cities controlled by urban politicians or any of that extra-constitutional crap it has been doing for near a century.

IMO, its duty is to protect us from without and provide an unfettered environment that allows opportunity within.

I could give a rat’s pattootie what happens to any urban city or state that allows its own largess to overload its capacity to maintain it. They get what they asked for.


29 posted on 02/17/2015 5:51:41 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: NY.SS-Bar9; central_va; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy
RE :”McCain, Dole and Romney all tried to appeal to the Democrats instead of putting forth a principled agenda that was clear, concise and communicated the message that freedom is better than a handout. The difference was bigger government or much bigger government.”

Perfect example, Rush spits out this narrative all the time.
But he predicted that both Romney and MCcain would beat Obama in landslides.

Similarly Levin was pretty happy with Romney till he lost. After the 2012 election he made it sound like he warned us all along.

30 posted on 02/17/2015 5:52:58 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: KC_Conspirator

“I just think the overwhelming problem are the idiot voters who are brainwashed in publik skools all their life and then watch Jon Stewart for their news and think they are informed.”

Ultimately government, and its leaders, reflect the intelligence and morals of the population. An intelligent, well read, self sufficient, and moral population would not elect or tolerate 98% of the politicians running government today.


31 posted on 02/17/2015 6:02:25 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Beagle8U

Yep. I watched that interview. His answer was “I’m against Amnesty.” Along with “secure borders”. Brett’s follow up about what to do with the 11 million here was met with [paraphrased] “....we’ll talk about it later....” or similar. If you go ask Boehner or McConnell, they’ll outright tell you they’re against amnesty, but you know in the back of their little minds they’ve redefined what they really want to not be amnesty.

Look, we’ve all been there done that with a politician’s fondness for triangulating on the specific “Amnesty - I’m against it....” but then comes the equivocation in the specifics about pathways, legalization, normalization, fines apply this apply that. It just doesn’t wash.

Amnesty to mean means any form of capitulation, legalization, pathway, sidewalk, fines, go home-come back, ANY of that mess. Current law says illegals are criminals and verified criminals should not be allowed to attain citizenship.

Regardless, I’ll look forward to Walker’s elucidation on what exactly his statements about “...talk about that later...” actually means. He’s gonna have to really explain it if he wants my vote.


32 posted on 02/17/2015 6:14:10 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: sickoflibs
live in that fantasy world, like its still 1984. And that is where talk radio takes them, to the world we miss that no longer exists.

Unfortunately, FR sometimes takes people there too.

If one's only political discussions are with freepers or like minded people, it's easy to fall into dreaming about a conservative base tsunami which will overwhelm the GOP and the nation.

This is fun to dream about, in the same way someone would dream about winning the lottery.

But then on the Wednesday after primary or election day, you see lots of people on FR who have had their beebers thoroughly stuned, mumbling about secret mind control rays coming from Karl Rove's basement, or something....

33 posted on 02/17/2015 6:22:34 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means.....)
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To: sickoflibs
I agree. Did you ever stop to think that one day we would long for 1984?

1984!!!

But not Orwell's 1984, but rather Reagan's.

How I wish is was!

From "Where's the beef?" to "I want you to know that also I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience."

A few of my favorite 1984 tunes...

Thomspon Twins, "Hold me now"
Madonna, "Borderline"
Michael Jackson, "Thriller"
Sheila E., "The Glamorous Life"
John Waite, "Missing You"
Nena, "99 Luftballons"
Sade, "Smooth Operator"
a-ha, "Take on Me"
Van Halen, "Jump"
Pat Benatar, "Love Is a Battlefield"
Steve Perry, "Oh Sherrie"
Ray Parker Jr., "Ghostbusters"
Scorpions, "Rock You Like a Hurricane"
"Weird Al" Yankovic, "Eat It" (Better than "Beat it")
Eurythmics, "Here Comes the Rain Again"
Cyndi Lauper, :Girls Just Wanna Have Fun"

Movies of 1984

The Terminator
Ghostbusters
Red Dawn
Footloose
A Nightmare on Elm Street
Amadeus
16 Candles
The Karate Kid
Johnny Dangerously
Beverly Hills Cop
Gremlins
The Killing Fields

34 posted on 02/17/2015 6:22:34 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Since the GOP hasn’t had a Conservative POTUS candidate since Regan, what do you base your opinion on?


35 posted on 02/17/2015 6:26:19 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: sickoflibs; central_va

ROTFL

Those were the days, BEFORE calling the Bushes what they are was cool. In fact it was downright frowned upon, the Bushbots were legion. “My president right or wrong”! Or left.


36 posted on 02/17/2015 6:26:52 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
I don't have to be "tired of the Constitution" in order to recognize that a majority of the American electorate is tired of it.

Please try not to confuse the bad news with its bearer.

37 posted on 02/17/2015 6:30:20 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means.....)
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To: Impy

Who would you have rather had in charge on 9-11, Gore or Kerry?


38 posted on 02/17/2015 6:33:44 AM PST by Beagle8U (NOTICE : Unattended children will be given Coffee and a Free Puppy.)
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To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...

Our last 3 failed nominees,

Romney, would have been the 4th oldest (just a day behind #3 James Buchanan, an awful President, #2 was WH Harrison who sadly got sick and died after a month. he might have been decent)

McCain (would have been the oldest)

Dole (would have been the oldest, even older than McCain was in 2008)

Relevant? I sure think so. Ronald Reagan was one of a kind.

Hopefully it’s a major issue for Shillery, who would supplant Harrison as #2.


39 posted on 02/17/2015 6:34:15 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Beagle8U

Given that GWB fought the war at about 60% effort and then left office with it un-won after seven years, in the long run it sadly did not make a lot of difference.


40 posted on 02/17/2015 6:39:52 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (I wish someone would tell me what "diddy wah diddy" means.....)
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