Posted on 02/01/2015 11:47:41 AM PST by Bratch
Bristol Palin proved to be as savvy and perceptive as her mom recently by saying:
Maybe the GOP “talking heads” are railing against her [Governor Palin] because she called them out?
Additionally, in January of 2013, Chuck Heath, Jr., Governor Palin’s brother made a very interesting point about a third party that has always stayed with me:
To me, it’s just common sense: a new party working for the best interests of American citizens. A party that looks beyond party lines because there are no party lines, including patriots from every walk of life willing to work for the good of all of us. A party of substance, compassion, rock hard toughness, and responsibility.
I know what some are going to say: Forget it! It’ll never happen!
For a moment, allow me to exclaim "at this point, what difference does it make?" appropriately.
Anybody who runs on a third party, independent ticket is going to feel the brunt of an angry GOP. Additionally, if it’s a conservative, they’re going to get it from the left as well.
But who cares? Like many of you, I felt that shimmer of hope last week when Governor Palin answered a reporter’s question about a potential run for the White House in 2016. That’s why, also like many of you, I wasn’t surprised at how the GOP’s "talking heads" spent the entire week trashing her after she gave a speech where she not only called them out, but reminded them that an Independent beat a sitting Republican in her state of Alaska, referencing of course Bill Walker’s win over incumbent, Sean Parnell.
Within a state, this has happened before. But on a national level, recent history shows it hasn’t worked.
In 2012, Gary Johnson ran as a libertarian. He received 1,275,951 votes from some very wise people who rejected the party machines.
And despite others, the most notable was Ross Perot who got 8,085,294 votes in 1996, and 19,743,821 votes in 1992.
There are a couple important differences this time.
First, the nation, at high levels, is tired of both political parties. A September 2014 Gallup poll revealed that the majority of Americans feel ditched and believe it’s time for something new. Second and more importantly, in 2012, 1996, and 1992, Libertarian/Independent candidates were not only battling the establishments in both parties, they also had to contend with incumbents. In 2016, it’s open on both ends of the political spectrum. There are no incumbents this time.
As much as the idea of Governor Palin (or another powerful conservative) running on the GOP ticket seems inspiring, to me it’s even more encouraging thinking about what a strong, powerful name could do by publicly rejecting "convention" and going at it alone. It doesn’t even necessarily have to be Governor Palin. I trust her and believe she truly seeks God’s guidance and listens to her family. But seriously, it’s no secret what the GOP machine has in store for any constitutional conservative in the future, no matter how much the base approves of such a person.
We can’t expect government to change if we don’t change the corrupted, twisted process of how our leaders are selected.
Remember 2012 when Governor Palin called out the GOP for their inner-party cannibalism? After Newt Gingrich won the South Carolina primary, the good old boys in the party decided that he had to be wiped out. Every establishment guy (including Mike Huckabee) came out with bald faced lies and smears on the former House Speaker. Additionally, Gingrich was outspent 17-1 in the Florida primary alone. Governor Palin said:
But this whole thing isn’t really about Newt Gingrich vs. Mitt Romney. It is about the GOP establishment vs. the Tea Party grassroots and independent Americans who are sick of the politics of personal destruction used now by both parties’ operatives with a complicit media egging it on.
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I spoke up before the South Carolina primary to urge voters there to keep this primary going because I have great concern about the GOP establishment trying to anoint a candidate without the blessing of the grassroots and all the needed energy and resources we as commonsense constitutional conservatives could bring to the general election in order to defeat President Obama. Now, I respect Governor Romney and his success. But there are serious concerns about his record and whether as a politician he consistently applied conservative principles and how this impacts the agenda moving forward.
Since then, the GOP have only accelerated their cannibalistic ways. They did it with Chris McDaniel in Mississippi as well as many others in the 2014 midterms. And they’re doing it now. As I noted above, they responded poorly to Governor Palin’s suggestion of true unity last week. Additionally (and ironically) we now find out that even Mitt Romney who despite being first place in recent GOP polling was gobbled up as well by the party’s big money players who now seek to force Jeb Bush down our throats. And as much as I hate to say it, the GOP establishment seems ready to ruthlessly mutilate any conservative challenger to Jeb Bush.
But just imagine if one strong person with high name recognition existed who could challenge this corrupt process of choosing presidential candidates. One who could take the time and journey — perhaps by bus — to travel the country and talk to voters on the ground. They’d be invariably chased around by the mainstream media while doing it. They’d come with an already-well-cultivated following that includes millions upon millions of social media followers. One should have a history of real reform as an executive. One who has the courage and ability to sock it to both parties throughout the process in both the primaries and the general election when the candidates begin attacking one another through the politics of personal destruction instead of telling the people directly what they plan to do to put this nation back on the right track. Such a person can call it out while talking about true energy independence, truly securing our nation’s borders, truly slashing the corporate tax rate, and truly bringing jobs and industries back to America. Such a person can showcase and highlight America’s greatness of the past while carving out her brightest days that lie ahead.
It might sound like a dream, but something tells me it can be a reality. The GOP has sold us out one too many times. I turned in my Republican card a long time ago even though I will always respect what Governor Palin calls "the planks" in the party’s platform. However, reality tells us that such planks are ignored by the few who control the entire party behind closed doors. I believe the time has come for us and others to take their not-so-subtle hints and leave the party knowing that something greater awaits.
Yes, such a candidate so bold can not only bring forth this challenge. I believe he or she can win. But more importantly, such a person could potentially change the course of this disgusting game where career politicians stop at nothing to prostitute themselves shamelessly.
Perhaps ...if it’s political power you seek. If you chose political representation you will vote for the candidate of your choice regardless of party. Only when the majority of voters do so will a representative republic be restored in America.
Right.. If you don't vote for the person you agree with, you will have wasted your vote. Your position is important for future contest choices. Losing today is winning tomorrow.
“It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see...”
“You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?”
“No,” said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, “nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.”
“Odd,” said Arthur, “I thought you said it was a democracy.”
“I did,” said Ford. “It is.”
“So,” said Arthur, hoping he wasn’t sounding ridiculously obtuse, “why don’t people get rid of the lizards?”
“It honestly doesn’t occur to them,” said Ford. “They’ve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they’ve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.”
“You mean they actually vote for the lizards?”
“Oh yes,” said Ford with a shrug, “of course.”
“But,” said Arthur, going for the big one again, “why?”
“Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,” said Ford, “the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?”
If they run Jeb we just may get to that third party.
Two things stand out in what you said. If you had bothered to watch the Iowa Freedom Summit, you would have seen that the conservative movement had picked up a lot of steam.
And .. during the last election, most of those who got elected on the repub side were CONSERVATIVES.
And .. if you try to split the Rhino’s and the Conservatives, you will most likely find that the Conservatives are much stronger than the Rhino’s. A lot of people don’t see it .. because it’s the other way around in Congress .. but the Conservatives are gaining ground.
If the repubs try to go Third Party in 2016 .. they will lose.
CRUZ OR LOSE ..!!!!!!
This is how the nascent Republican party of 1856 managed to overcome and eventually eviscerate the once-dominant Whig party.
The Whigs were considered to be the “conservative” party of the times, but they cozied up to the position of the Democrats of their day, and while the Whigs did not endorse the issue of slavery, had no gumption to pursue the issue, and in fact, were perhaps so demoralized by the effects of the political battle that led to the Missouri Compromise, which brought in Kansas in as a “free state” and Missouri in as a “slave state”, that they ceased to be a national party after about 1852.
Sure, if you don’t count the NUP.
States must reassert their rights and devolve Washington by force...back into it's proper role
Not really a party.
A third party turns this government into coalition government, where now, who would side with who to obtain the majority? Would the Pubes side with the Rats to run out the Conservatives? And so on.
Maybe because we already have a third and fourth and a couple dozen more political parties.
The third would be the Libertarian Party, fourth Green, fifth Constitution and another 28 more listed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States .
“I’d rather see Al Gore as a third party candidate.”
That’s a great idea! He can be the Green party candidate.
How do we get the dumb bastard to do it?
Well I didn’t bother to watch or even care about it. So, you go do what you want to do and I will do as I want to do. I earned my right to do what I wanted to do in Vietnam, what about you?
We do not need a 3rd party—we need a 2rd party!
look to UKIP in the UK-—
I’ve been saying since 2008 that we needed a 3rd party, but most people on every site that I’ve commented on have read me the riot act, saying how we’d never be viable. By now we could’ve made a pretty viable party. You expect that it will be a tough first couple election cycles, but after a while people see that you are a good alternative and start taking interest. By putting it off, we will never be viable. I feel that most people are not hurting bad enough to really make the change. Or, they keep thinking that we CAN change the republican party eventually. I think they’ve made it pretty clear to us that they will not allow that in any way, shape or form. So, why do we wait?
If Clintons brother Jeb is the (R) nominee I hope there is a strong 3rd party challenge as I will not continue to subsidize the liberal cowardice the Republican party continues to push.
We were assured the Republicans would make a stand against obama if we just voted for their sorry lying asses one more time in 2014. They didn’t even make it to the new congress before the white flags went up. I’m done with the Republicans they have to earn my vote and aside from Walker and Cruz the rest are useless as tits on a boar. If they want my vote they better earn it through action because all their talk is hot air.
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