Posted on 02/01/2015 11:47:41 AM PST by Bratch
Bristol Palin proved to be as savvy and perceptive as her mom recently by saying:
Maybe the GOP “talking heads” are railing against her [Governor Palin] because she called them out?
Additionally, in January of 2013, Chuck Heath, Jr., Governor Palin’s brother made a very interesting point about a third party that has always stayed with me:
To me, it’s just common sense: a new party working for the best interests of American citizens. A party that looks beyond party lines because there are no party lines, including patriots from every walk of life willing to work for the good of all of us. A party of substance, compassion, rock hard toughness, and responsibility.
I know what some are going to say: Forget it! It’ll never happen!
For a moment, allow me to exclaim "at this point, what difference does it make?" appropriately.
Anybody who runs on a third party, independent ticket is going to feel the brunt of an angry GOP. Additionally, if it’s a conservative, they’re going to get it from the left as well.
But who cares? Like many of you, I felt that shimmer of hope last week when Governor Palin answered a reporter’s question about a potential run for the White House in 2016. That’s why, also like many of you, I wasn’t surprised at how the GOP’s "talking heads" spent the entire week trashing her after she gave a speech where she not only called them out, but reminded them that an Independent beat a sitting Republican in her state of Alaska, referencing of course Bill Walker’s win over incumbent, Sean Parnell.
Within a state, this has happened before. But on a national level, recent history shows it hasn’t worked.
In 2012, Gary Johnson ran as a libertarian. He received 1,275,951 votes from some very wise people who rejected the party machines.
And despite others, the most notable was Ross Perot who got 8,085,294 votes in 1996, and 19,743,821 votes in 1992.
There are a couple important differences this time.
First, the nation, at high levels, is tired of both political parties. A September 2014 Gallup poll revealed that the majority of Americans feel ditched and believe it’s time for something new. Second and more importantly, in 2012, 1996, and 1992, Libertarian/Independent candidates were not only battling the establishments in both parties, they also had to contend with incumbents. In 2016, it’s open on both ends of the political spectrum. There are no incumbents this time.
As much as the idea of Governor Palin (or another powerful conservative) running on the GOP ticket seems inspiring, to me it’s even more encouraging thinking about what a strong, powerful name could do by publicly rejecting "convention" and going at it alone. It doesn’t even necessarily have to be Governor Palin. I trust her and believe she truly seeks God’s guidance and listens to her family. But seriously, it’s no secret what the GOP machine has in store for any constitutional conservative in the future, no matter how much the base approves of such a person.
We can’t expect government to change if we don’t change the corrupted, twisted process of how our leaders are selected.
Remember 2012 when Governor Palin called out the GOP for their inner-party cannibalism? After Newt Gingrich won the South Carolina primary, the good old boys in the party decided that he had to be wiped out. Every establishment guy (including Mike Huckabee) came out with bald faced lies and smears on the former House Speaker. Additionally, Gingrich was outspent 17-1 in the Florida primary alone. Governor Palin said:
But this whole thing isn’t really about Newt Gingrich vs. Mitt Romney. It is about the GOP establishment vs. the Tea Party grassroots and independent Americans who are sick of the politics of personal destruction used now by both parties’ operatives with a complicit media egging it on.
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I spoke up before the South Carolina primary to urge voters there to keep this primary going because I have great concern about the GOP establishment trying to anoint a candidate without the blessing of the grassroots and all the needed energy and resources we as commonsense constitutional conservatives could bring to the general election in order to defeat President Obama. Now, I respect Governor Romney and his success. But there are serious concerns about his record and whether as a politician he consistently applied conservative principles and how this impacts the agenda moving forward.
Since then, the GOP have only accelerated their cannibalistic ways. They did it with Chris McDaniel in Mississippi as well as many others in the 2014 midterms. And they’re doing it now. As I noted above, they responded poorly to Governor Palin’s suggestion of true unity last week. Additionally (and ironically) we now find out that even Mitt Romney who despite being first place in recent GOP polling was gobbled up as well by the party’s big money players who now seek to force Jeb Bush down our throats. And as much as I hate to say it, the GOP establishment seems ready to ruthlessly mutilate any conservative challenger to Jeb Bush.
But just imagine if one strong person with high name recognition existed who could challenge this corrupt process of choosing presidential candidates. One who could take the time and journey — perhaps by bus — to travel the country and talk to voters on the ground. They’d be invariably chased around by the mainstream media while doing it. They’d come with an already-well-cultivated following that includes millions upon millions of social media followers. One should have a history of real reform as an executive. One who has the courage and ability to sock it to both parties throughout the process in both the primaries and the general election when the candidates begin attacking one another through the politics of personal destruction instead of telling the people directly what they plan to do to put this nation back on the right track. Such a person can call it out while talking about true energy independence, truly securing our nation’s borders, truly slashing the corporate tax rate, and truly bringing jobs and industries back to America. Such a person can showcase and highlight America’s greatness of the past while carving out her brightest days that lie ahead.
It might sound like a dream, but something tells me it can be a reality. The GOP has sold us out one too many times. I turned in my Republican card a long time ago even though I will always respect what Governor Palin calls "the planks" in the party’s platform. However, reality tells us that such planks are ignored by the few who control the entire party behind closed doors. I believe the time has come for us and others to take their not-so-subtle hints and leave the party knowing that something greater awaits.
Yes, such a candidate so bold can not only bring forth this challenge. I believe he or she can win. But more importantly, such a person could potentially change the course of this disgusting game where career politicians stop at nothing to prostitute themselves shamelessly.
Blacks love voting for blacks, and we should help them have that opportunity again! Obama has spent 7 years investing in an "us vs. them" narrative with blacks as the poor victims.
ONLY A BLACK MAN CAN REPRESENT THE BLACK RACE !!
Blacks need to all get behind the Black candidate for President. Call it "the Black Party".
We're gonna need a whole lotta popcorn for this thread!
We need a second party, first?
“Why Not a Third Party, Independent Candidate?”
You forgot to add: “...from your ‘friends’ at the DNC”.
Remember Roosevelt and Taft a century back? They split the Republican majority enough to let in the Democrat Wilson, who actually got a smaller share of the popular vote than William Jennings Bryan had in his losing races.
And this time, Republicans don't start out with a majority of the voting population, so losing becomes inevitable if the party splits.
Sure, there's a dream that there are masses of conservatives out there who never vote in presidential elections who are just waiting for a candidate who is conservative enough to support, but seriously, how realistic is that dream?
Under current conditions that's a fantasy...
We are WAY past restoration...
I’d rather see Al Gore as a third party candidate.
I don’t think the republicans were ever a third party, when they formed in 1854 the Whigs were only 22 years old.
The republicans simply replaced the Whigs. Two years after the republicans first met in 1854, John Fremont came in second in the 1856 presidential race, the “know Nothings” “third party” came in a distant third with 8 electoral votes. The Whigs were pre civil war America, the party only lasted 22 years itself (1833 to 1856). The Republicans held their first convention on July 6, 1854 and four months later held 19% of the Congress and 25% of the Senate, six years later they held the majority in the Congress, the majority in the Senate, and they had the Presidency. The Republicans were never really a third party at all.
Reading the posts here leaves me cold. For far too many, this isn’t a conservative activist site. It’s a Republican ass kissing site. Doesn’t anyone want to seriously take on the political establishment and restore our Republic? Where are people’s abilities to think outside the box? Just because something has never happened before does not mean it can’t happen now. This nation was built on a foundation that had never happened before. I’m in. Let’s take on BOTH CORRUPT POLITICAL PARTIES!
You might be right.
Bingo!!! The only way a third party could work in the USA would be if the Constitution were amended to require a run-off if no one candidate won a majority.
But such an amendment would never happen, because the two major parties want no competition. So it's as you said. A conservative third party would be exactly what the Democrats want.
LOL. So true!
I believe there will be at least one third party run this year, if not more than one. It will be a crapshoot for any mainstream candidate. It is happening worldwide, as the cycle switches from public to private, as documented by Martin Armstrong.
Bill Clinton only won with a plurality of the vote. If not for Ross Perot, Clinton would have been an also-ran, and nobody would be talking about Hillary.
Sure I’ll find someone in a 3rd party that I agree with because the major two has been tried and wanting.
Here’s a level of difficulty to add to the mental exercise: there are states where getting a third party on the ballot is not as easy as filing for office. Ballot access issues in these states need to be addressed before another party can become truly viable.
I’m not advocating for a third party, however the argument that something has never been done before is not a reason. If we always do what we’ve always done, we’ll always get what we’ve always gotten.
Because if a conservative third party ran, the bad guys would win!
Oh, wait! The other two are both bad guys, but one wants to strangle the Constitution a bit more obviously and a bit faster than the other.
I guess it doesn’t matter, in the long run.
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