Posted on 12/26/2014 7:20:12 AM PST by SleeperCatcher
Some conservative political analysts have opined that former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush announced recently that he was further exploring his options to run for the GOP presidential nomination as a means of pre-empting all other potential GOP candidates. Many of the same analysts say there was an additional, not-so-subtle message, and it was aimed primarily at conservatives: ‘Don’t bother running; the monied GOP interests (i.e. the donor class) have spoken and Jeb Bush is who they want.’
Over the Christmas holidays I have had a number of people ask my opinion about Bush, and what I have told them, essentially, is this: Jeb Bush, like all the Bushes, is an inherently decent man. He has been a governor of a mostly red (but sometimes purple) state. He shares lineage with a storied political family. But if the goal is to restore some semblance of constitutional government to our republic, Jeb Bush is the wrong candidate, for he – like his father and brother before him – is no conservative.
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In the meantime God keeps calling out in the wilderness and nobody listens because they are so caught up in the “politics of some kind are THE SOLUTION” mindset.
Precisely.
I gave the GOP one last ‘straight ticket’ vote last month, but I cast it thinking like an independent.
If the Stoopid Party misinterprets their win as a mandate from conservatives, two years from now the Democrats are gonna be cackling ...
Helping JEB join the family business isn’t high on my list of life goals. No more Bushes!
Kill/repeal the last 6 years of feckless state aggrandizement and spending & abolish the ‘make-work’ federal agencies created, e.g. why did we need yet another CPSC?, secure the damn border, start protecting the unborn, jobs! ... if the GOP started nailing down those planks, that would be a good start.
But if the Boehners & McConnells, etc. decide they can continue to do ‘demo-lite’, well, they can go pound sand into their own ‘rat holes in 2016, the faithless bassterds.
A long time ago when I dared to mention that Jeb Bush was a fake because he claimed to be converted to Catholicism but allowed Terry Schiavo’s murder I was excoriated as un-American and a closet liberal. In fact, on virtually every point I made back then I have been proven right. I wish I had been wrong. Maybe we would not be an inch away from the abyss at this very moment. The establishment is now known by many more folks as the enemy, but it is probably too late. A hearty f-you to all of you fools who blindly supported them for far too long.
I’ll vote for Jeb. The only bad thing is that his last name is Bush.
Reagan had the voters and had the votes, and then lost Congress again in 1982. That’s not because of “GOPe” or “Uniparty”, it’s because of who showed up at the ballot box.
“Way too late for that now, as far as 2016.”
How can that be?
Are you saying that because it would be so difficult to overcome the media?
Exactly. And if our side had started a new party back when the serious talk seems to have begun, about 15 years ago or so, IIRC, we could have coalesced quite nicely by this point. But the answer was always that forming a third party would just hand it to the Rats.
“A long time ago when I dared to mention that Jeb Bush was a fake because he claimed to be converted to Catholicism but allowed Terry Schiavo’s murder I was excoriated as un-American and a closet liberal.”
I excoriated the swine back when it happened, but nobody attacked me for it on FR.
There are still a lot of people who mistakenly believe that Terri was “a vegetable.”
Primaries should be run under uniform rules in all 50 states (and in territories, where applicable), in order to avoid crossover voting. But they aren’t. That’s a systemic problem, and difficult to circumvent so long as the gubmint manages the primaries. We’ll have to live with it.
By contrast, states with caucuses are few, but Iowa is early and allows any candidate with a good ground game to emerge with some delegates, and attract financing. Iowa’s Pubbies have picked the eventual nominee about half the time in the past 40 years. IOW, it’s as good an indicator as one of those multi-sided dice in D&D followed by a coil flip.
What is perhaps the best approach not involving violence is however illegal — we need to vet candidates from the left, and ‘primary’ out Demwit incumbents, then drop effective support for the radical freaks who manage to win in the primary. This is a tried-and-true tactic used for years if not decades by the Demagogic Party.
For conservatives to bolt to another party will have the same effect as bolting to the RAT party or just staying home and not vote.
“I’ll vote for Jeb.”
Mr. Amnesty, Mr. Let-a-woman-be-murdered, Mr. A-whiff-of-a-principle-and-a-cold-drink-of-water-would-kill-me Jeb Bush? You would vote for that loathsome chunk of rotted meat?
He’s worse than Hubert Humphrey was. How could a conservative possibly vote for that cowardly, accessory-to-murder swine?
“For conservatives to bolt to another party will have the same effect as bolting to the RAT party or just staying home and not vote.”
It’s a J-curve, buddy. Conservatives can let the leftards continue to dismantle America, or they can take a short-term hit for the sake of an eventual cure.
The Republocrats offer no cure. The best they offer is “bipartisanship,” which, as we all know, is when the Stupid Party and the Evil Party get together and do something that is both stupid and evil.
“This is a tried-and-true tactic used for years if not decades by the Demagogic Party.”
Except that the Evil Party has been using it to “primary out” any good candidates in the Stupid Party. (I can’t bring myself to write, “on the right.”)
The Evil Party has chosen every Stupid Party candidate since Eisenhower—and if Ike had chosen to run as a Dim, they’d have accepted him.
Spoken like a true troll.
The Tea Party has managed to infiltrate the GOPe and is starting to show real results. Both the GOPe and the Marxists are worried about us. We haven't reached a tipping point yet, but we are getting there. Why would we change something that is working to initiate a political party. We would be joining the:
American Independent Party
Americans Elect Party
Green Party
Libertarian Party
Peace and Freedom Party
Who side are you on anyway? The Marxists or the GOPe?
You don't know what guarantees they have received, nor from whom. It's "their turn", after all - and their job is not to screw it up by letting a Ted Cruz get nominated.
The only thing we can state with certainty is that if Bush has been pre-selected as the 2016 winner as the evidence is starting to indicate, he will sound conservative but not govern in the interests of conservatism. But no candidate who would govern as a conservative has any chance of getting pre-selected, either.
Forget "voting" - at the national level, it's just window-dressing. The elites pick the sock-puppet they want, and Obama has been one of their greatest creations - a master at playing Leftist for public consumption while never once stepping on the toes of his betters. The Left is furious about it - just as we were furious about G.W. Bush - but what can they do?
Already did. My party has been “Independent” for several years.
So is our ground game against the GOP-e merely the threat of not participating?
Reform Party if the Liberty can’t be formed yet. We need to run a Tea Party Ticket! Palin/Trump Ticket! or????
Yes, today’s “Republicans” make HHH look a lot better in retrospect.
Twenty two months seems like a very short time to build a brand new political party from the ground up. However, if you start with the Libertarian Party, and merge all of the various Tea Party organizations in to it, with the LP’s existing , very effective infrastructure, you automatically get a huge head start on the process (as per SpeakerToAnimals suggestion). But it’s still a very short amount of time, to build a new party.
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