Posted on 12/17/2014 4:24:54 AM PST by Hostage
PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION HEARING TO STOP OBAMA'S AMNESTY EXECUTIVE ACTIONS
Date: December 22, 2014 Place: D.C. Federal Court, 3rd and Constitution Ave., Courtroom 15 Time: 9:30 AM
Here is the press release for the hearing:
http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/dc-federal-court-orders-expedited-preliminary-injunction-hea
Here is the 164 page final injunctive motion:
http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/141204-FINAL%20Motion%20for%20Preliminary%20Injunction.pdf
Here is the related lawsuit:
http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/141120-Arpaio%20Complaint%20with%20Exhibits.pdf
Thanks for confirming this information. So, if there is no official record - won’t the court throw out the lawsuit, and Obama will ignore an injunction? Seems like this detail could also work against him. No?
No, it isn't.
President Obama reportedly is using a unique form of executive action known as the “presidential memorandum” at a historic pace – a tactic that allows him to, technically, claim he’s not over-using executive orders while still pursuing high-level policy changes without involvement from Congress.
A review by USA Today, published Wednesday, shows that, in fact, Obama has issued more memoranda than any U.S. president in history. He’s issued 198 – more than the 195 executive orders from his White House.
as we cant post USA...too day articles here this seemed like the right place to post this info
This is all a waste of time designed to give the appearance of doing something.
ONLY the US Congress can do anything about this, and it doesn't involve Judges.
> “What fool believes Obama would be any more inclined to follow a judicial order than he is to follow legitimate and clear Federal Statute?”
No one has to believe Obama will respect a court order. Obama does not matter.
A federal court order will apply to federal government employees and federal contractors.
Without people to carry out his directives, Obama can do nothing.
For example, General Dynamics is the manufacturer for the amnesty ID Cards which to lead to SSNs and everything else. A federal court order served on General Dynamics will stop them cold. And stopping GD will stop the amnesty process.
Obama can squeal all he wants, he can spew out all sorts of disrespect for court orders but it won’r matter because he won’t be able to get anyone to risk jail for him on a scale of processing millions and millions of illegals.
Sometimes the fed courts do come through for us. The Freemont Nebraska ordinance run by a group of petitioners against renting to illegals and local E-Verify made it past SCOTUS.
Scotus also permitted local control of E-Verify and elements of 1070 survived.
I believe that Hostage is correct here and also have an interest in maintaining their turf.
There are lefties that do not support the EO. Judges I believe would be inclined to disagree with his out-of-bounds approach on immigration.
Sure. Against little people like you and me. They become the enforcement wing of the EPA and the IRS. They come in and lock up your business and take all your property.
Us little people are powerless against them. But Obama and his cronies are outside their reach. Just watch and see. If you think the US Marshals are going to stop Obama, then you are a dreamer.
I’ve already said a umber of times in this thread and to you in particular that US Marshals need not contact Obama or any of his directors.
US Marshals will if necessary serve summons or arrests on General Dynamics if they attempt to manufacture amnesty ID cards which lead to SSNs and everything else.
Now are you saying that General Dynamics is going to go up against US Marshals? I don’t think so.
So keep on piping up about ‘how big and mean’ Obama is and his cronies yada yada yada. OBAMA DOES NOT MATTER!
Thanks for a most informative thread.
It looks like this may have a chance of success and being the House leaders in the next Congress don’t have the stones to impeach nor the Senate have enough Rats to aid in a conviction it may be the last chance to rein in this tyrant.
Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
I don't think anyone from any office can arrest a sitting president.
It has the chance to delay Executive Actions until the new Congress is seated and until we see who can be the front runner for the 2016 Presidential Race.
If Ted Cruz is the front runner or a front runner, then chances are real good that Congress won’t even think of passing immigration amnesty.
There is uncertainty about what the Judge will do Monday or next week. But if the Judge follows the law, then an injunction is pretty much a done deal. If the Judge twists out a ruling based on the Obama narrative, then there are options of appeal that can go fairly quickly.
The 24-state and growing Abbott lawsuit is also waiting in the wings.
But time is of the essence. Need to have some action entered within 6 months else Obama gets critical mass. But even if Obama achieves critical mass there are options.
Good points.
No one is considering arresting Obama. In fact it is likely impossible and most probably inadvisable. In fact it would be ludicrous to think of arresting Obama because of the separation of powers doctrine.
What US Marshals can do is to serve arrest warrants or summons on federal contractors that are involved in making the amnesty ID Cards which lead to SSNs. Federal contractors are fair game and cannot escape jurisdiction of a federal court order.
There is no reason to believe such an injunction will apply to anyone besides the Executive.
The cards are already illegal per the Simpson/Mazzoli act.
The link to the motion lists who the defendants are.
When a federal judge issues an order, it applies to the defendants and everyone associated with the defendants.
And judges can amend their orders in minutes if there is any uncertainty or ambiguity in an original order.
Impeachment is an earthly power
Yes but there is no court order to enforce. Only Congress can cause enforcement of that Act.
If General Dynamics is given the work order and there is no court order prohibiting them from proceeding, then nothing will stop them from proceeding. But if there is a court order with US Marshals behind it, we can be assured this contractor will suspend the work order.
Bttt.
5.56mm
I agree. Congress is the body that should complain. They have not. And, their action to fund Obama’s amnesty in the CRomnibus, it seems to me, could be used as evidence that they have waived their Simpson/Mazzoli right to require hearings and have agreed with the president’s action.
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