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Cruz on Apple CEO Tim Cook being gay: 'Personal decision'
The Hill ^ | October 30, 2014 | Peter Sullivan

Posted on 10/30/2014 12:23:27 PM PDT by BurningOak

"Those are his personal choices. I’ll tell you, I love my iPhone," Cruz said.

"Listen, Tim Cook makes his personal decisions, and that is his life. My focus is on the constitutional question of who has the authority to make decisions," he later added.

Cruz said that marriage is a "question for the states" because of the country's federalist system.

"This is something we’ve seen over and over again, which is the federal government and federal courts deciding they don’t trust the people," Cruz said. "They look down on the people, they don’t trust us to make judgments about our own lives, so the federal government and federal courts are going to step in and impose their own policy preferences."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; apple; california; election2014; election2016; homosexualagenda; iphone; macos; marriage; tedcruz; texas
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To: WayneS
Homosexuality not worse than murder, but like murder, it is one of the four sins considered so horrible that God cannot forgive if the person does not repent:

4 sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance

"There are particular mortal sins that are so evil that they are said to be sins that cry to heaven for vengeance: murder (Gn 4:10), sodomy (Gn 17:20-21), oppression of the poor (Ex 2:23), and defrauding workers of their just wages (Jas 5:4)."

The sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance

Murder: And the Lord said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood is crying to me from the ground.” (Gn 4:10)

Sodomy: Then the Lord said, “Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great and their sin is very grave, I will go down to see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry which has come to me.” (Gn 18:20-21)

Oppression of Widows and Orphans: “You shall not afflict any widow or orphan. If you do afflict them, and they cry out to me, I will surely hear their cry.” (Ex 21-23)

Cheating Laborers of Their Due: “You shall not oppress a hired servant who is poor and needy, whether he is one of your brethren or one of the sojourners who are in your land within your towns; you shall give him his hire on the day he earns it, before the sun goes down (for he is poor, and sets his heart upon it); lest he cry against you to the Lord, and it be a sin in you.” (Dt 24:14-15)

121 posted on 10/30/2014 2:50:27 PM PDT by two134711
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To: Romulus

I think we are to criticise the sin not the sinner. I hope your criticism was not directed toward Mr. Cruz, but rather toward the sin of an admitted homosexual.

It was obviously a trick question by the media that Mr. Cruz skilfully dodged to avoid an unwarranted judgement of Mr. Cook. Unless Mr. Cruz condones the sin, I have no issues with his response. But they did not ask him a direct question about his views on homosexuality.

How do you think Jesus would have responded to the same question? Would HE have responded to Mr. Cruz, Mr. Cook, or to both something like this: “Homosexuality is an abomination to G_D the father, your sins are forgiven, now go and sin no more”.

I do not know the answer to my question, but I know G_D tells me it is an abomination in his eyes. I believe G_D will judge me for my sins, not those of others who have chosen to commit sin by their own freewill.


122 posted on 10/30/2014 2:51:01 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Romulus

Is Tim Cook a Christian?


123 posted on 10/30/2014 3:02:20 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: RginTN

Such a tired argument and ineffectual to say the least.

First let me preface my response by repeating an old truth; “Politics is the art of the possible.”

With that in mind I invite all of the purists out there to offer a factual response to rebut me or to change my mind. I am open to any and all suggestions. Let me begin by offering a real-life scenario.

A Republican and Democrat are running for Senate in NH. The GOP is desperate to recover control of the Senate as things have spiraled out of control here in the U.S. In one corner we have the marxist, progressive Democrat. In the other, we have a liberal Republican who while he is definitely not a “rock-ribbed” Conservative, he will vote with the GOP 70% of the time. Is it your contention that because this GOP candidate is not perfectly Conservative or that he does not agree with you on all issues that we should not vote for him? Which in turn makes the road for the Dem candidate, who will vote with us 0% of the time much easier on the way to getting elected. Keeping in mind that this election is taking place in a very deep blue region of the country. In a region of the country that very rarely sees a GOP candidate win a statewide election. That is making a stand? That is helping the country?

We should be counting our lucky stars any time a Republican has a shot in MA, CA. IL or any of the Northeast. By refusing to vote for them because they are not a “perfect” Conservative is both naive and just plain stupid. 100% conservatives are not going to get elected in places like this, at least not right now.

This is why in many ways, I believe Conservatives are just as emotional and delusional as liberals. They see the world the way the want it to be, not the way it is. Liberals have one thing going for them, they are patient and understand incrementalism. The Democrat Party did not move en-masse to the far left overnight. It took decades. The GOP will not move to the right overnight either. We must defeat the Dems first, anywhere and everywhere that we can. Then we can concentrate on moving the GOP to the right. We cannot win against the GOPe, the media, the Dems, and the gibsmedats all at the same time. It must be done methodically and with a plan.

Before anyone goes spouting off ignorant posts about how I am colluding with progressives or some such nonsense just know that if you are one of these “purists” it is you who are playing right into their hands. You are fighting the war on their terms.

I want the country moved to the right, probably further than most. I am am realistic enough to know that it is not going to happen in one election or overnight.


124 posted on 10/30/2014 3:19:27 PM PDT by BizBroker (It doesn't make sense because it isn't true...)
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To: ohioman

Not really...if the CEO is managing the bottom line effectively and returning profits to his share and stakeholders then no one could give a piddle what depraved things he is doing in his spare time.


125 posted on 10/30/2014 3:24:10 PM PDT by Jarhead9297 (-)
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To: BurningOak; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
Tim Cook comes out as Gay. Ted Cruz says that's his personal decision. . . he's more concerned with who gets to make that decision. — PING!


Apple CEO admits gayness Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

126 posted on 10/30/2014 3:32:33 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: randomhero97
This post my friends is why democrats keep winning election after election.

I have come to realize that there are some people who are so immersed in religion and scripture from the time they are born that they are literally incapable of formulating a thought or argument or emotion outside of that context. Their minds cannot see anything else.

I have also come to realize that many of those people post here.

127 posted on 10/30/2014 3:39:06 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: DiogenesLamp
The solution is to address the actual problem; Liberal control of News and Entertainment. We need to destroy their monopoly.

How? Conservatives appear unwilling to enter the fields and major in the subjects that would facilitate this. Instead they just mock those fields and majors while patting themselves on the back for starting their own businesses or "having a real job".

128 posted on 10/30/2014 4:07:02 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: southern rock

You make a good point, and the internet revolution really didn’t help either as most significant internet portals are controlled by progressives.


129 posted on 10/30/2014 4:08:20 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: BizBroker

Purists aren’t the problem. Compromisers are.
Purists didn’t help create 17 trillion in debt. Purists didn’t create bloated govt agencies. Purists didn’t vote for Dem nominated Supreme Court Justices.

Save the contempt for the Compromisers, the lesser of two evil Republicans, the Republicans who once elected walked across the political aisle to help Dems achieve their policies.


130 posted on 10/30/2014 4:19:13 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: I want the USA back
Who the hell cares what a CEO does in his spare time!

Guess it depends of what he is CEO.

Take for example, the CEO of the administration of just about everything in the United States of America government... Yeah, I'd like to know what's up with that CEO in his "free" time.
131 posted on 10/30/2014 4:29:12 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: southern rock

Did someone call me from this post? I was sure I was being paged.


132 posted on 10/30/2014 4:34:39 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: I want the USA back
Who the hell cares what a CEO does in his spare time!

Depends on how many boys he "Sanduskies"

133 posted on 10/30/2014 4:34:48 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: BurningOak
I just read through all the replies on this thread and while some are quite rational, some are quite judgmental, both to Cook and Cruz. For those who claim to follow Jesus Christ, they are apparently failing to recall his explicit Admonition, a really severe warning about being judgmental of other sinners:

Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV)

7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Another time, Jesus gave a concrete example to a crowd of self-righteous men, sure about their positions, and arrogant in their knowledge of what the rules of their culture demanded, intending to show up this up-start minor "politician" Jesus, and about to administer summary judgment and execution themselves to a sinner. asked Jesus how they should handle the "case." (I'm not trying to equate Ted Cruz with Jesus, but the cases are amazingly parallel.)

In John 8:1 - 11 scribes and Pharisees had caught a woman in the act of adultery (the woman commonly referred to as the prostitute) and told Jesus who was teaching in the temple that the Mosaic Law required she be stoned to death. Trying to make an opportunity of this to trick Jesus that they might accuse Him, they, with stones in hand, asked Jesus what He says about the Law. After Jesus tried to ignore their repeated questioning, He told them "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." One by one each man dropped his stone and walked away.

134 posted on 10/30/2014 4:35:39 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: SoConPubbie

Just an FYI, there have been tons of higher ups and plenty of employees in Microsoft, Apple, etc. who were homosexual for quite some time, it’s just a case where a CEO, as opposed to a step lower, identifies as such.


135 posted on 10/30/2014 4:47:21 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Swordmaker
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Absolutely and forever true. But is one of those Holy Scriptures most often used by non-believers and non-followers of The Lord Jesus Christ as a Sword of attack against those who are born-again believers/followers.

Look out when an unruly kid, on FR or anywhere, starts weilding the Sword unwisely. Many bystanders can get cut pretty deeply. (This particular Sword is very very sharp and precise and is double-edged.)
136 posted on 10/30/2014 4:48:26 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

...wielding...


137 posted on 10/30/2014 4:50:46 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Jarhead9297
Not really...if the CEO is managing the bottom line effectively and returning profits to his share and stakeholders then no one could give a piddle what depraved things he is doing in his spare time.

Not true. Depraved things between consenting adults that impact no-one but the involved parties? Fine. Do what you want. That is between you and God. Depraved things involving unwilling parties, children, animals (by their nature, involuntary), or that impact their neighbors (too many loud, objectional, or intrusive parties, etc.), sorry, not allowed, and the cops should fall on your head with a ton of legal repercussions.

I don't give a damn what these CEOs do to themselves privately, so long as it doesn't spill over into their ability to do their jobs effectively. Once they allow the activities to affect the job, the extracurricular activities are negatively impacting others, and they should be GONE from their positions of business and fiduciary trust.

138 posted on 10/30/2014 4:51:35 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
Depraved things between consenting adults that impact no-one but the involved parties? Fine. Do what you want. That is between you and God.

I don't give a damn what these CEOs do to themselves privately...


Well, everyone here has an opinion. And you sound very certain of yours. On what do you base this judgement? Live and let live?
139 posted on 10/30/2014 4:58:19 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Swordmaker

I do agree with you and we’ll stated


140 posted on 10/30/2014 5:03:44 PM PDT by Jarhead9297 (-)
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