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To: RginTN

Such a tired argument and ineffectual to say the least.

First let me preface my response by repeating an old truth; “Politics is the art of the possible.”

With that in mind I invite all of the purists out there to offer a factual response to rebut me or to change my mind. I am open to any and all suggestions. Let me begin by offering a real-life scenario.

A Republican and Democrat are running for Senate in NH. The GOP is desperate to recover control of the Senate as things have spiraled out of control here in the U.S. In one corner we have the marxist, progressive Democrat. In the other, we have a liberal Republican who while he is definitely not a “rock-ribbed” Conservative, he will vote with the GOP 70% of the time. Is it your contention that because this GOP candidate is not perfectly Conservative or that he does not agree with you on all issues that we should not vote for him? Which in turn makes the road for the Dem candidate, who will vote with us 0% of the time much easier on the way to getting elected. Keeping in mind that this election is taking place in a very deep blue region of the country. In a region of the country that very rarely sees a GOP candidate win a statewide election. That is making a stand? That is helping the country?

We should be counting our lucky stars any time a Republican has a shot in MA, CA. IL or any of the Northeast. By refusing to vote for them because they are not a “perfect” Conservative is both naive and just plain stupid. 100% conservatives are not going to get elected in places like this, at least not right now.

This is why in many ways, I believe Conservatives are just as emotional and delusional as liberals. They see the world the way the want it to be, not the way it is. Liberals have one thing going for them, they are patient and understand incrementalism. The Democrat Party did not move en-masse to the far left overnight. It took decades. The GOP will not move to the right overnight either. We must defeat the Dems first, anywhere and everywhere that we can. Then we can concentrate on moving the GOP to the right. We cannot win against the GOPe, the media, the Dems, and the gibsmedats all at the same time. It must be done methodically and with a plan.

Before anyone goes spouting off ignorant posts about how I am colluding with progressives or some such nonsense just know that if you are one of these “purists” it is you who are playing right into their hands. You are fighting the war on their terms.

I want the country moved to the right, probably further than most. I am am realistic enough to know that it is not going to happen in one election or overnight.


124 posted on 10/30/2014 3:19:27 PM PDT by BizBroker (It doesn't make sense because it isn't true...)
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To: BizBroker

Purists aren’t the problem. Compromisers are.
Purists didn’t help create 17 trillion in debt. Purists didn’t create bloated govt agencies. Purists didn’t vote for Dem nominated Supreme Court Justices.

Save the contempt for the Compromisers, the lesser of two evil Republicans, the Republicans who once elected walked across the political aisle to help Dems achieve their policies.


130 posted on 10/30/2014 4:19:13 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: BizBroker
Before anyone goes spouting off ignorant posts about how I am colluding with progressives or some such nonsense just know that if you are one of these “purists” it is you who are playing right into their hands. You are fighting the war on their terms.

I want the country moved to the right, probably further than most. I am am realistic enough to know that it is not going to happen in one election or overnight.


Please offer your definition of purist and purism. It sounds as if you are slighting a substantial number of Constitutional conservatives here in your zeal to get Republican votes increased this Tuesday.

What are you asking these "purists" to do?
201 posted on 10/31/2014 4:19:54 AM PDT by Resettozero
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