Posted on 10/29/2014 2:07:38 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
Election Day isn't until next week, but Senate Majority Leader-in-Waiting Mitch McConnell is already warning Republicans who would like to repeal Obamacare and roll back environmental regulations about two key numbers: 60 and 2.
"It would take 60 votes in the Senate. No one thinks we're going to have 60 Republicans. And it would take a presidential signature. No one thinks we're going to get that," McConnell said during a campaign-stop interview with Fox News.
"This is why nobody believes Mitch McConnell anymore," said Mary Vought, spokeswoman for the Senate Conservatives Fund, a group that has pushed Tea Party candidates in GOP primaries against establishment incumbents. "He says he wants to rip Obamacare out 'root and branch,' but then flips days before his election and says he plans to surrender."
Dan Holler, a spokesman for the political wing of the Heritage Foundation, Heritage Action, said Republicans have to explain to America what they're for. "That is not going to happen if they sit there and make excuses about Harry Reid or Barack Obama. They need to be proactive about putting out an agenda," he said.
McConnell said that with a full Obamacare repeal impossible, he would instead push to repeal the law's tax on medical devices — which a number of Democratic senators already support — and to narrow its mandate on which workers must be covered.
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Relax, everybody, without the ability to override a veto, Mitch is just setting expectations.
Let them pass a reduced budget with no ObamaCare funding.
Let Obama veto that.
Am I missing something here, or is there some magical way to get a bill through the Senate without 60 votes, and then get it past Obama without a veto?
I’m all ears once people are done with their meltdown.
That’s a simple question to answer. Start with the least popular areas obamacare and pass bills to repeal them. For example, pass the Vitter amendment and put it on obama’s desk. Let him try to veto that one.
Conservatives are ready for this battle. Let us know when cheese eating surrender monkey CINOs care to engage the rampaging Dems.
Arrrgh!
Are these guys purposefully trying to lose, or do they honestly believe they don’t need the base of their party to win?
Nope. This is calibrated hit on us. He’s trying to strike a “moderate” pose by kicking sand in conservatives faces.
Mark Levin was talking about this tonight, with audio clips of McConnell from 2 years ago.
McConnell said that since Obamacare was ruled a tax and passed via reconciliation with only a majority vote, it can be repealed the same way.
Of course today, he's saying the opposite because that's what he does. Talk is deemed to be just as good as actually doing.
-PJ
Sometimes I think some of you either 1) Don't know how congress works...or 2) Want a coup.
As much as I don't like him...HE'S RIGHT. Good grief people. Even if we get 60 votes...the president will veto it...and then it takes 67 in the senate...and what....287 or so in the house?
Do ANY of you REALLY think that will EVER happen under Obama? If you do...it is YOU who is being pathetic....pathetically naive.
We must retake the senate at all costs. WHY? Not because of the reasons Mitch will tell you...to block Obama-laws....that's already happening with the house. We have to do it to force O's hand into crossing that line so blatantly that even the blind can see it. It's the only way to turn this thing around...and its gonna be painful...but it has to happen.
So they can keep their cushy jobs and benefits. And so they can help the democrats win in 2016 by playing scapegoat for them.
(This healthcare comment is such a stupid statement to make considering how many millions more people are going to be hit with the healthcare law next year. Everyone is going to be enraged about it all over again, but this jackass has already given the people over to it. Then again, Mitch has no worries, he's exempt.)
I will also bet that somewhere between 5 minutes and 24 hours after the Republicans get control (assuming they win), the MSM will begin blaming them for everything the dems have done.
The Gope will see to it that this mumbling idiot and the crying oaf are elected to counter the MSM attacks and represent the Republican party and ideas to the people. They will fail, because nobody will be able to understand them though all their mumbles and blubbering. (And it's not like they have any concern for our country in the first place-so long as "they got theirs"-big paycheck and bennies.)
The only thing they will make maximum effort to do is to crush conservatives and ensure the dems a vicory in '16-which tragically, will ensure that this country is finished.
There is no point them getting control if they aren't going to do anything.
I expect no less a statement from Mitch McChinless the gutless (and chinless) commie in disguise.
Fair enough.
Impeachment by the House is achieved by a simple majority vote.
No, impeachment does not mean removal (remember Clinton?).
Removal requires a 2/3 vote by the Senate. The vote is taken after a trial. If the trial isn’t a sham, as it was for Clinton, and the full depth and scope of Obama’s crimes are revealed, then I don’t think it would be impossible to get enough Democrats to vote for his removal, if the idea of backing so much lawlessness is something they don’t want hung around their necks. But even if the vote were to fall short, it would be worth the effort to shine a bright light onto what’s really been going on with this “transparent” administration. He might not be removed, but hopefully he’d be so exposed and humiliated that he’d be lucky to be asked to speak at the opening of a new supermarket.
Yes, I agree, that the Democrats are not going to have Hillary be their candidate.
They don't have to repeal it to undo it, just defund it, but they won't.
Actually I think the GOPe did that. K Bailey requested her amendment to fund the fence, be stricken from the bill.
Is there any way the president can fund his projects with out congress? No there isn't.
Sure it is Robers did it quite easily.
A little known fact judging by the GOPe apologists infecting these threads.
I guess it is working, judging by your post.
“Removal requires a 2/3 vote by the Senate. The vote is taken after a trial. If the trial isn’t a sham, as it was for Clinton, and the full depth and scope of Obama’s crimes are revealed, then I don’t think it would be impossible to get enough Democrats to vote for his removal, if the idea of backing so much lawlessness is something they don’t want hung around their necks.”
Despite what the Constitution calls it, a “trial”, removing a President from office is, first and foremost, a political act. If the Republicans win every seat that is leaning or firmly GOP, the Democrats will retain 45 seats. You would have to get 12 of them to ‘convict’. As you said, Clinton’s trial wasn’t a ‘sham’, it was a political act and so would be Obama’s.
“But even if the vote were to fall short, it would be worth the effort to shine a bright light onto what’s really been going on with this “transparent” administration. He might not be removed, but hopefully he’d be so exposed and humiliated that he’d be lucky to be asked to speak at the opening of a new supermarket.”
You mean like Bill Clinton? He’s going around the country receiving six figures for giving speeches. Removing Obama from office is simply a pipedream.
BTW, even if the Republicans took 67 seats, how long would it take to “shine that bright light”? You would have to build a case compelling, not just to conservatives, but to liberals as well. If the GOP does this as a political act, the GOP would never be competitive at the national level again. By the time you get all this done, Obama is out of office.
No, the best path is to ‘shine the bright light’, do all the investigations without calling them an impeachment. Convince the American people that Obama is a fraud and the Democrats incapable of running a country.
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