Posted on 10/28/2014 8:52:51 AM PDT by Mozilla
First, I want to make one thing perfectly clear: It is the stated position of Erick and the mods that Red State advocates voting for the most conservative candidate in the primaries, and the Republican in the general election. I agree with that, and it is not my intent here to troll or disrupt. Anyone who has read my earlier diaries knows that. However, if those in charge feel this diary strays over the line, they should take it down.
People, this is MISSISSIPPI. This is totally different. What has happened here is an abomination. Everyone here knows what was done to Chris McDaniel in the primary and the run-off. The Republican establishment used the vilest, most despicable tactics to renominate a senile fool to the US Senate. They committed massive electoral fraud; they stole the election.
Three months ago, disgusted at what had just occurred in the Magnolia State, I posted a diary, actually, more of a diatribe:
“So, would it really be THAT bad if we don’t win the Senate in November?”
http://www.redstate.com/diary/gawken/2014/06/27/really-bad-dont-win-senate-november/
To my utter astonishment, it was promoted to the front page ( first time ever) and received 140 comments. The majority agreed with my sentiments, and shared my frustrations and disgust.
Since that time, McDaniel has lost several attempts to have the election overturned, and is awaiting the outcome of one last, albeit long-shot court ruling. State law requires that the ballots be printed very soon.
It now appears, less than 5 weeks out, that the Republicans will win control of the Senate. GOP seats in Kentucky and Georgia that were earlier deemed at risk now appear safe. It could well turn into a wave election for the GOP. As we get closer, the polls will be even more accurate. By mid October, we should be able to get a better sense of the size of the incoming Republican majority.
If Cochran is reelected, then the GOPe wins, big time. They literally will get away with stealing an election. And most likely, within a year, Cochran will retire, and Haley Barbour will hand pick his successor.
McDaniel and his supporters have declared war on the state GOPe, and vowed to dismantle the party establishment in 2015. I wish them success. It is long overdue.
But if indeed, this is a war, then why not let it begin now?
With a preemptive strike!
The GOP base, the Tea Party, social conservatives in Mississippi are highly organized and motivated. McDaniel’s primary campaign demonstrated that.
So, if we’re some ten days from election day, and all the polls look good, then it’s easy to use the internet and social media to get the message out to McDaniel’s supporters:
1. Vote for Childers, or
2. Don’t vote for any senate candidate.
That should be more than enough to elect Childers.
I suspect Childers will be a far more moderate senator..I can’t see him running to do Reid’s or Schumer’s bidding.
Haley Barbour awoke a sleeping giant. Time to pay the piper!
And I would remind all of you that if the GOP establishment gets away with this, they’ll pull out all the stops to keep a real conservative from getting nominated for the White House. Why do you think we are all of a sudden hearing all this talk about more Mitt?
For a multitude of reasons, it’s time to put Cochran out to pasture, even if doing so requires electing a Democrat.
*facepalm*
That is an absurd premise, and mearly is an attempt at a tangent to avoid answering my original question.
If you think you can win elections by praying and spouting platitudes, and nothing else, then just say so.
All over but the shouting..
By the GOPe and the Democrats, you most certainly have to be.
If being nice is a priority, then politics is not where you want to be because you are going to get stomped and deservingly so.
whoosh!
I don’t give a rip about being “nice” with the Rats or GOPe...
‘They deceive themselves and delight in being deceived that if the GOP ‘wins’ that this entire transformative agenda can be stopped, even when the GOP leadership has told us in advance that they are going to surrender power to the Democrats and fund Obama’s agenda.’
And there you have it. Even now, when the GOPe needs our votes, our enthusiasm, our money, time, energy & commitment, they still have not the slightest compunction in telling us that once in power, they will kowtow to Obama. One or two are saying they will resist his executive order amnesty. But apart from that, what have we been promised? A repeal of Obamacare?
Hell no; the GOPe likes it as much as Obama does.
A meaningful and lasting fix for voter fraud?
Not even one single promise on this issue. None.
A secured southern border?
We get a little lip service, but nobody really believes the southern border will be sealed at all, much less sealed pre-comprehensive immigration reform.
A balanced budget?
They don’t even try to fool us any more. Both parties have become spendaholics, and neither sees a problem with it.
Trying, but I can’t think of a single solid, serious and trenchant promise the GOPe has made to us. McConnell declared war on the Tea Party—a war he no doubt intends to prosecute & win. But as for pro-base/conservative promises, I can’t think of a single one.
So this all justifies voting for Childers to the US Senate?
Is this the logic behind that?
I have never voted for a Democrat for high office. Ever.
And I’m not going to start now.
While I live in CA, I would not recommend it in MS or KY or any other state.
RR made the mistake of signing Simpson-Mazzoli into law legalizing millions of illegals. I did not support that law. But I always supported RR.
And secondly, Real Clear Politics have this as a walk for Cochran.
| Poll | Date | Sample | MoE | Cochran (R) | Childers (D) | Spread |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RCP Average | 6/25 - 10/23 | -- | -- | 45.7 | 29.3 | Cochran +16.4 |
| CBS News/NYT/YouGov | 10/16 - 10/23 | 654 LV | 7.0 | 50 | 28 | Cochran +22 |
| CBS News/NYT/YouGov | 9/20 - 10/1 | 826 LV | 4.0 | 46 | 35 | Cochran +11 |
| CBS News/NYT/YouGov | 8/18 - 9/2 | 976 LV | 4.0 | 46 | 31 | Cochran +15 |
| CBS News/NYT/YouGov | 7/5 - 7/24 | LV | 5.7 | 47 | 33 | Cochran +14 |
| PPP (D) | 7/10 - 7/13 | 691 RV | 3.7 | 41 | 26 | Cochran +15 |
| Rasmussen Reports | 6/25 - 6/26 | 750 LV | 4.0 | 46 | 34 | Cochran +12 |
| Rasmussen Reports | 3/26 - 3/29 | 750 LV | 4.0 | 48 | 31 | Cochran +17 |
| PPP (D) | 11/15 - 11/17 | 502 RV | 4.4 | 50 | 33 | Cochran +17 |
Childers will not win. I'll gladly take bets!
You are very remarkable for a conservative. I.e.: you think like a liberal.
Let me explain. Conservatives are very good at thinking like conservatives, but, as actual tests/experiments have shown, we can also think like liberals. It doesn’t mean we can become liberals. It means we can see inside the workings of their brains, and we know what makes them tick. We have no end of fun with it. Many of our parodies, sarcasms & other amusements derive from us ascribing (accurate) thoughts to liberals, & then laughing about it.
You, by contrast, can see no POV but your own. You wear blinders & see within a tight, narrow stricture. In your POV, you are one-hundred percent right, while others are one-hundred percent wrong. All merit, morality, justness & righteousness resides in your view. Differing views are simply and wholly wrong.
I have no doubt you harbor conservative convictions. That is good. But the *way* you harbor them would make you a very good liberal, in terms of your manner of judging both yourself and others. The, ‘I am totally justified and you are totally unjustified’ is the liberal POV to its depths.
[& I don’t, btw, mean this on core issues, such as small government, Constitutional/non-activist judges, first & second amendments rights, anti-abortion, etc. I mean it in areas where good conservatives can & do disagree, such as election tactics. It is in these areas that your, ‘I’m one-hundred percent right & you’re one-hundred percent wrong’ liberal-esque POV comes to the fore.]
It justifies not voting for the gope. Voting for the gope is not justified by anything beyond a desire to maintain the status quo and let the Democrats have free rein. If all the gopes could be flushed out the minority Conservative rump would do more good for America than any level of a majority run by the gopes because it would demonstrate that GOPe is DEAD and there is actually an opposition to the Bolsheviki.
You do whatever you think you need to do. I'm not going to insult you and belittle you as you have Conservatives who will not betray their principles to vote for the Ruling Class stooge for the GOP Establishment.
These elections have National consequences...we are all impacted by them.
Californians are reminded of this ad nauseum whenever those socialist slime ["don't call me ma'am" Box 'o rocks, Feinswine, Pelousy, etc.] are up for re-election.
Given all of that, I don’t think Cochran’s re-election is even in doubt.
The voters in MS fortunately recognize that a vote for Childers is a vote for Reid and a vote for BHO.
There is nothing to think about. Nothing to debate. It is what it is. This is no time for sore losers. No point in crying over spilled milk.
You may call me a stooge. You may call me an idiot. You may call me whatever you like. You can raise your middle finger at me if you want. With respects to next weeks election I have but three choices:
1) I can vote REP
2) I can vote DEM.
3) I can stay at home.
I don’t even have the ability to vote for third party candidates. My state (CA) recently adopted the blanket primary. A system where only the candidates with two highest vote totals make it to the November ballot which eliminates all of the third party and independent candidates.
Heh, you just did it again.
Your ridicule of people of faith and God is duly noted despite your flimsy constructed straw man.
It’s nice that you have no regrets ...
It’s not so nice that, with Republican Party collusion, our government has every year increased its size, its scope, its cost, all in complete violation of the Constitution.
But I guess that’s OK.
You voted for Republicans. Every. Single. Time.
That’s just wonderful.
I didn’t call you a stooge.
I didn’t call you an idiot.
I didn’t give you the middle finger.
I said you can do what you think you need to do. I said I’m not going to insult you and belittle you as you have Conservatives who will not betray their principles to vote for the Ruling Class stooge for the GOP Establishment.
If you take offense and assume that I’m insulting you because I called the Ruling Class GOP candidates ‘stooges’ - then that is your personal problem. If that is the case, perhaps you identify yourself as being of the Ruling Class oligarchy.
I want nothing to do with them and will not aid or support what I consider traitors to our cause.
Unlike you, I can write in a Conservative or vote third party for the more Conservative candidate, which I plan to fully exercise on Tuesday.
As I said, you do as you think necessary. I’m not going to insult you and declare that you are not a Conservative simply because you are limited in what you can do.
Given that predicted outcome, the intensity of the GOPe advocates on FR is most amusing.
Yes I have voted Republican every single time. And have no regrets.
I live in CA. We have no such thing as “conservative Democrats” in these here parts. They are ALL Marxists. Period.
There is no choice. And now that the state has instituted the blanket primary, only the top two vote getters in the primary make it to the general election, thus eliminating all of the third party and independent candidates.
Therefore, my only chance for realistically advancing the conservative cause is within the GOP primary. I always take advantage of that. Last June I voted for Tim Donnelly for governor in the GOP primary. Unfortunately he didn’t win. But you move on and deal with what you have. There are no other alternatives other than not voting which I am aware of.
If you think that your practice of ALWAYS voting for your local Republicans is producing the sort of government that you want, by all means keep voting for them.
I have NEVER told anyone to do otherwise.
Some people find their local Republicans to be no better than democrats, and choose not to vote for them.
1) Voting for the democrat party, regardless of the candidate's personal policy positions, is immoral. The democrat party, as a party, officially supports several morally reprehensible policy positions.
2) Voting for any politician, regardless of party, who supports certain grossly immoral policy positions, is immoral.
Sometimes that leaves the only the option of not casting a vote on that particular line.
I urge people ALWAYS to show up and vote ... even if only to vote against whatever local tax, bond, or spending issues have been deposited on the ballot.
I agree with you that politics is bloodsport and playing hardball wins elections.
Thats why I’d vote for McConnell in KY. He and Bevins had a standup fight. Bevins was a poor candidate. He lost. Time for Conservaties there to hold their noses and pull the Red lever, even if McConnell is an a$$hole for making that “crush the Tea Party” comment and raised money for Cochrane. We can only afford to throw one incumbent seat. McConnell’s isn’t it.
Cochrane’ tho IS that seat. He went well beyond the boundaries of typical campaign ruthlessness in advancing viscious damaging messages that reinforced the worst possible stereotypes relating to race and racism.
And he did that against Conservatives. McConnell taunted the Tea Party and Conservatives. Cochrane did tangible, significant damage to the Conservative Movement by portraying it as racist. Effectively confirming, as a Republican, that the decades long charges made by the Liberals, and denied by Conservatives, are correct.
That is simply unforgivable. Even before getting to the vote fraud stuff with Dem primary voters casting in the GOP runoff. If you disagree, you really need to sit back and ponder the long term, national, consequences of a senior sitting Southern Republican Senator saying that Conservatives are racist and disenfranchise Blacks.
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