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Is it time for Mississippi conservatives to teach the GOPe a lesson and vote for Travis Childers?
Red State ^ | 9/30/14 | gawken

Posted on 10/28/2014 8:52:51 AM PDT by Mozilla

First, I want to make one thing perfectly clear: It is the stated position of Erick and the mods that Red State advocates voting for the most conservative candidate in the primaries, and the Republican in the general election. I agree with that, and it is not my intent here to troll or disrupt. Anyone who has read my earlier diaries knows that. However, if those in charge feel this diary strays over the line, they should take it down.

People, this is MISSISSIPPI. This is totally different. What has happened here is an abomination. Everyone here knows what was done to Chris McDaniel in the primary and the run-off. The Republican establishment used the vilest, most despicable tactics to renominate a senile fool to the US Senate. They committed massive electoral fraud; they stole the election.

Three months ago, disgusted at what had just occurred in the Magnolia State, I posted a diary, actually, more of a diatribe:

“So, would it really be THAT bad if we don’t win the Senate in November?”

http://www.redstate.com/diary/gawken/2014/06/27/really-bad-dont-win-senate-november/

To my utter astonishment, it was promoted to the front page ( first time ever) and received 140 comments. The majority agreed with my sentiments, and shared my frustrations and disgust.

Since that time, McDaniel has lost several attempts to have the election overturned, and is awaiting the outcome of one last, albeit long-shot court ruling. State law requires that the ballots be printed very soon.

It now appears, less than 5 weeks out, that the Republicans will win control of the Senate. GOP seats in Kentucky and Georgia that were earlier deemed at risk now appear safe. It could well turn into a wave election for the GOP. As we get closer, the polls will be even more accurate. By mid October, we should be able to get a better sense of the size of the incoming Republican majority.

If Cochran is reelected, then the GOPe wins, big time. They literally will get away with stealing an election. And most likely, within a year, Cochran will retire, and Haley Barbour will hand pick his successor.

McDaniel and his supporters have declared war on the state GOPe, and vowed to dismantle the party establishment in 2015. I wish them success. It is long overdue.

But if indeed, this is a war, then why not let it begin now?

With a preemptive strike!

The GOP base, the Tea Party, social conservatives in Mississippi are highly organized and motivated. McDaniel’s primary campaign demonstrated that.

So, if we’re some ten days from election day, and all the polls look good, then it’s easy to use the internet and social media to get the message out to McDaniel’s supporters:

1. Vote for Childers, or

2. Don’t vote for any senate candidate.

That should be more than enough to elect Childers.

I suspect Childers will be a far more moderate senator..I can’t see him running to do Reid’s or Schumer’s bidding.

Haley Barbour awoke a sleeping giant. Time to pay the piper!

And I would remind all of you that if the GOP establishment gets away with this, they’ll pull out all the stops to keep a real conservative from getting nominated for the White House. Why do you think we are all of a sudden hearing all this talk about more Mitt?

For a multitude of reasons, it’s time to put Cochran out to pasture, even if doing so requires electing a Democrat.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservativesforreid; delusional; establishment; mississippi; obama; rinos; senate; tempertantrum
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To: longtermmemmory
these purist litmus threads...

The GOPe purist lie, again. We aren't demanding purity and you know it. We demand people with a track record of moving the political football toward the conservative goalpost.

Not somebody with an obvious hatred of conservatives. Is that simple enough for a staunch Republican to understand?

101 posted on 10/28/2014 10:51:09 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: arthurus

With very few exceptions, like the one I mentioned earlier (Larry McDonald) it is NEVER a good idea to for ANY Democrat for ANY reason. OK....we didn’t win the primary. So out of spite we vote Democrat? Doesn’t make an ounce of sense. A vote for Childers is a vote for BHO and Harry Reid. Wise up and get a clue!


102 posted on 10/28/2014 10:51:18 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Fantasywriter

Good post, I agree. However, they are not going to drop the insults, the intimidation and the blame when the consequences of what the Ruling Class GOP has done is made manifest.

The cognitive dissonance and Normalcy Bias that infects the majority of such people is rooted in willful ignorance and fear.

Willful ignorance of the fact that the entire electoral process is now totally corrupted. Cook County went national and is employed by both parties to ensure their ruling class maintains power. It is a willful and chosen ignorance because to accept the truth of where we have arrived leaves little in the way of civil solutions to the tyranny we have become accustomed.

Fear is what motivates the lashing out and insults. The fear is motivated by the short-sighted view that we need massive numbers to overcome both the Democrats and fraud in order to ‘win’. They are not looking at the fruits of the Ruling Class GOP or their words. They deceive themselves and delight in being deceived that if the GOP ‘wins’ that this entire transformative agenda can be stopped, even when the GOP leadership has told us in advance that they are going to surrender power to the Democrats and fund Obama’s agenda.

The rest are GOP Party hacks - who will intimidate, threaten, insult and berate in a vain attempt to get us to shut up and get in line, so it is seen by others who have similar unfavorable views of the GOP.

For party hacks this is all just a political game - and to them, Conservative Principles are childish and need to be left at home under the bed when you go vote.

You are absolutely correct. They are not winning anyone over to their cause, instead they are strengthening our resolve and solidifying our own animus to the Republican party itself, which in my view - is already dead.


103 posted on 10/28/2014 10:52:05 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

““So, would it really be THAT bad if we don’t win the Senate in November?””

Yes, it will.

Win the senate, fix the problem from the inside and from a position of strength. Lose Mississippi and you may never get it back. And there goes the south. Especially if Nunn also wins.

If this was the Northeast, I wouldn’t care.


104 posted on 10/28/2014 10:52:56 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Ebola: Satan's End Game for Humanity.)
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To: Mozilla

This is crazy. Childers will make Cochran look like a partisan piker. Childers is tied into the disgraced Langston law firm and the sale of imminent domain property at Yellow Creek. If Childers gets elected, he and his cronies will have a fire sale on the properties along the Tennessee River. There is BIG money to be made. I made hold my nose and vote for Cochran but its better than sticking my head into a bucket of faeces and voting for Childers.


105 posted on 10/28/2014 10:53:29 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Fantasywriter

It’s very simple logic — REAL conservatives don’t advocate voting for and putting people like Reid, Pelosi and Obama in power.

Therefore, anyone who advocates keeping them in power is NOT a conservative, but indeed just someone trying to con some actual conservatives into a self destructive action.

Therefore calling such people trolls is indeed accurate and is not an insult to real conservatives.


106 posted on 10/28/2014 10:53:31 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Mozilla

Balderdascious drivel.

The lesson to be learned will be that vindictive narrow minded focus accomplishes nothing. Nothing that is except elect Democrats.


107 posted on 10/28/2014 10:53:53 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: NorthMountain

Realistically speaking, our only chance to advance the conservative cause is in the Republican primaries.

Here in CA, where I live, ALL Democrats are Marxists. Period. No exceptions.

You can:

A) Vote Republican
B) Vote Democrat
C) Vote third party which is effectively voting Democrat to the extent that it siphons off votes from the GOP candidate.
D) Not vote at all. Any conservative or Republican who does not vote, effectively becomes a vote for the Democrats.

Those are your choices in a nutshell. Granted, it isn’t always pretty. But life isn’t a bowl of cherries and politics ain’t bean bag. You have to be realistic and work with what you have. No such thing as perfection or utopia in the real world. Wake up.


108 posted on 10/28/2014 10:56:41 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: VanDeKoik
Ok, lets here your grand plan to combat these people.

And if it involves some folksy platitudes or depends on prayer, then just say you have no idea.

Wow. Way to go, just like a liberal Leftist; insult the faithful and disparage prayer and the power of the lord.

With sentiments like that directed at Conservatives, your party is already on the ash heap of history and done.

109 posted on 10/28/2014 10:57:51 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

So, you always vote for the Republican.

And California is ...

California.

Lovely.

Always voting for the Republican is a successful strategy ...

If success means making California whatever it is that it is right now.


110 posted on 10/28/2014 11:00:08 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Political Junkie Too

Pure nonsense. The Democrats don’t think that way. It makes no sense to throw away a perfectly safe GOP US Senate seat.

Agreed that Cochran isn’t perfect but he....

1) Voted against Obamacare
2) Voted against the Porkulus
3) Voted against Dodd-Frankenstein
4) Voted against Crap and Trade
5) Voted against Harry Reid.

All of which makes him VASTLY preferable to his Dem opponent. This is a no brainer.


111 posted on 10/28/2014 11:00:22 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

BTW, my response to your last paragraph is an upraised middle finger.

Just so you know ...


112 posted on 10/28/2014 11:01:06 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Yours is the very reason and mindset that has gotten this nation to this point.

You have no principles except party, and you castigate those Conservatives who will not abandon principles to vote for a liberal with an ‘R’ after their name.

People like you are no different than Democrats. It’s all about party and power.


113 posted on 10/28/2014 11:02:08 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: VanDeKoik

So in order to be respected and understood on FR, I need to be ruthless with fellow FReepers?

I don’t think so. But I honestly don’t think you or many other FReepers do either.

If that’s what it takes around here, the bloodlust will destroy conservatives from within.


114 posted on 10/28/2014 11:02:40 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

‘In the future, why would I align myself with someone with whom I am now in disagreement?

Who clearly doesn’t respect/understand me or my position enough to treat me with some basic common decency, courtesy and respect?’

+1


115 posted on 10/28/2014 11:04:33 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: NorthMountain

Yes. I HAVE ALWAYS voted the straight GOP ticket since I have been eligible to vote and never had a single regret.

In 1984 I voted for RR over Mondale. No regrets.

In 1988 I voted for Bush over Dukakis. No regrets.

In 1992 I voted for Bush over Clinton. No regrets.

In 1996 I voted for Dole over Clinton. No regrets.

In 2000 I voted for GWB over Algore. No regrets.

In 2004 I voted for GWB over Kerry. No regrets.

In 2008 I voted for McCain over BHO. No regrets.

In 2012 I voted for MR over BHO. No regrets.

Now, would you like me to repeat this very same exercise for US Senate and gubernatorial candidates? It’s the same story each and every time without exception.


116 posted on 10/28/2014 11:05:52 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: INVAR

So.....what should I do a week from today?

1) Toss my vote away on third party candidates?
2) Vote Dem?
3) Stay at home?

What are my alternatives?


117 posted on 10/28/2014 11:07:49 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: NorthMountain

Great....your middle finger.....

I never thought I would live to see the day when folks here would be advocating voting for Dem US Senate candidates.


118 posted on 10/28/2014 11:09:41 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: VanDeKoik

Thanks for replying. You give me the opportunity to add a crucial element of Cochran’s strategy that I left off.

Namely, if we follow your advice, we need to become twice as good at recruiting one-time Dem voters to steal—STEAL—primaries and run-offs from Republicans and conservatives. I.e.: we need to become twice as good as Cochran’s team in enlisting one-time-only Dem voters to swing *Republican* primaries out of Republican/conservative control and into Dem control. We need to rig each pre-general election such that Republicans and conservatives are overridden by fear-mongered, race-card-driven black Dems who will vote against the Republican/conservative/Tea Party choice, and make certain ‘our’ primaries and run-offs are decided by Dem voters.

According to you.


119 posted on 10/28/2014 11:09:57 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

With McConnell we might as well have Harry Reid. With Boehner and McConnell and Cochran and the rest of the Gopes we got AMNESTY and many millions of new Democrat voters and thus the Permanent Democrat State. The sooner we flush out the Democrats running as Republicans the sooner we can regain some influence in American politics.


120 posted on 10/28/2014 11:11:14 AM PDT by arthurus
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