Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
Some vectors are above any thought of a quarantine.
"I agree. There are two types of humans - we are special."
“Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, warned that overly aggressive quarantines could make healthcare workers “very, very uncomfortable” and discourage them from volunteering.”
Yes, we need to just let them run around and infect everybody upon their return so their feelings won’t be hurt. Maybe some of these volunteers need to grow up instead and realize what they are getting involved with first.
This selfish bitch has set off the usual firestorm of liberal indignation. She was kept 7 hours - 7 hours - and the poor dear only got a granola bar for her pains. And, even more astonishingly, she got attitude from New Jerseyeans!
This so reminds me of the fight back in the 1980s to close the bathhouses during the AIDs crisis. NY took a lead on that and shut them down.
Too bad. Blame the Ebola bowling doctor if you don't like a quarantine.
You go you abide by the rules and care about hose you left behind by NOT taking a chance to infect them or the whole continent.
Too many damned resume builders out there.
So, Doctor, you say “overly aggressive quarantine”............I’m confused.
Is it “overly aggressive” to “demand”, not “request”, that health workers observe quarantine rules notwithstanding their heroic act of going there “to help”?
How many people did the returning doctor infect as he went bowling and riding trains and airplanes? On the face of it, what you say sounds crazy!
I think you sound like a liberal” sir, which is the worst thing that can be said about a person.
Maybe,
healthcare workers should view quarantine as part of a tour in the African Hot-Zone,
quit whining,
and accept that Americans have a right to live without Ebola.
So, Fauci, how about you or their organization rent a 5 star resort as the place they can serve their quarantine?
So then the possibility of getting Ebola won't "disincentivize" volunteer healthcare workers but a quarantine will?
Really?
Volunteer Ebola healthcare workers risk their lives to help. Having to be quarantined really shouldn't be a disincentive.
I read this nurse’s harrowing ordeal about being confined to a mandatory quarantine and all of her do-gooder, holier than thou, I’m a ‘healthcare professional and deserve better’ stuff and I was not impressed. I was also not impressed by the other doctors and nurses coming to her defense, either. They are ANGRY about being treated like the patient cattle they tend, with that same loving attitude.
The first thing out of their mouths is an arrogant “I’m aa professional” attitude, and the first thing they throw away are the ‘protocols’ [I HATE that word] they’ve probably forced on some patient, all to allow them free passage because they think they know better. Well they don’t. And the CDC and the NIH don’t either judging by their “we got this” and “wash your hands” and “violated the protocols” attitudes.
Frankly, it seems to me like a lot of the medical profession out there are acting stupidly and irrationally. Why in the hell does she think because she’s handled Ebola victims that she could just be released out into the wilds of Manhattan, Long Island or New Jersey willy nilly? Because she doesn’t have a frigging temperature? Duncan didn’t have a temperature when he passed through there either. But it’s okay, she’s a WWB or MSF or whatever do-gooder dilettante and it’s all good. Trust her. Trust her like Friedan of the CDC. Trust her not to start a disaster in a city of 8 million people. Just damn. Fricking do gooders.
The NIH can go straight to hell.
Are they a health agency, or a public relations firm?
Another example of just how dangerous politically correct delusions can be.
Didn’t I read on another thread that Doctors Without borders give their returning workers a month off with pay? So they won’t be out any pay while they are in quarantine.
Health care workers are THE ones at risk.
They get to have a voice in this republic, over what happens. NIH is a government entity, and, BTW a notoriously corrupt government entity.
We don’t like communism.
Here is one of the examples of why.
When the NIH officials man the urban ERs closest to the airports where this is coming in, they can be quiet
Health care workers don’t have a voice by nature of their professionalism, much like the military, they cannot say they won’t take care of these people.
But the health care workers are left to have to trust the government on this.
Problem is, the government, being this corrupt, as well as just unreasonable, regarding this situation, is not trustworthy.
Now you have nurses at Bellevue not going in to work.
If they have babies, children, families at home, to protect, who, in government, at the NIH, shows any consideration for that?
He is a liar, how can anyone believe anything he says?
Sounds like BULLSCOOT to me. If I was inclined to go to Africa to help...IF I was the sort of person inclined to risk my life to help humanity I didn’t even know, had no dog in the fight, I’d also be inclined to be concerned about my fellow Americans, and would without hesitation enter a quarantine situation upon my return to this country to ensure I didn’t infect a single person in this the country of my birth, the people, and the country I care most about.
People that volunteer to help humanity in this way do so from their hearts, their souls, for their GOD. This NIH Director is doing what he does for the money, and is projecting his perspective upon the volunteers.
This NIH director seems to me another lying sycophant typical of the Obama Administration of pro liars.
Funny how they all seem to care about Africa, but don’t care for the USA.
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread