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Court Rules Against Christians in Arab Festival Case (Christian Arabs: Qureshi, Rezkalla, Mayel)
CBN ^ | September 01, 2014

Posted on 09/01/2014 10:05:14 AM PDT by xzins

A federal appeals court ruled against a group of Christian evangelists who were forced to leave an Arab-American street festival in Dearborn, Michigan, in 2012.

Festival-goers threw rocks and water bottles at members of the Bible Believers group when they denounced Islam and called Mohammed a false prophet.

In response, Wayne County authorities threatened to ticket the Christian group if they did not leave.

On Wednesday, the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals backed county authorities, ruling 2-1 that police were only trying to keep public order.

"The video from the 2012 festival demonstrates that (evangelists') speech and conduct intended to incite the crowd to turn violent. … Although robustly guarded by the First Amendment, religious conduct remains subject to regulation for the protection of society," the three-judge panel wrote in its ruling.

But one dissenting judge said the police should have tried to control the lawbreakers rather than stifle free speech.

"The First Amendment protects plaintiffs' speech, however bilious it was," Judge Eric Clay wrote in his 11-page dissent. "The majority … provides a blueprint for the next police force that wants to silence speech without having to go through the burdensome process of law enforcement. I expect we will see this case again."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: arabchristians; christianity; dearborn; islam; michigan; persecution
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1 posted on 09/01/2014 10:05:14 AM PDT by xzins
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They give the impression that Billy Graham was inciting arabs.

The truth is that these Arab Christians KNOW that Mohammed is a false prophet from long association. This was clearly a free exercise/free speech issue.


2 posted on 09/01/2014 10:06:44 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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This is what happens when you let immigrants in who don’t share your values of liberty. It’s also what happens when you let government schools educate your kids about liberty.

I pray this is overturned in a harsh 9-0 smack down by SCOTUS.


3 posted on 09/01/2014 10:07:25 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: xzins
I expect we will see this case again.

Count on it.
4 posted on 09/01/2014 10:08:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: xzins

Their mistake:
never enter an argument with fools after five min nobody can tell you apart


5 posted on 09/01/2014 10:08:53 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (Barry is but a symptom of the disease that killed this republic. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: xzins

So the loudmouth militant muslims at Times Square on weekend nights are in violation of the law too? Personally, I would support removing their sorry asses.


6 posted on 09/01/2014 10:11:04 AM PDT by boycott
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To: 1010RD; cripplecreek

This is the same as a normal citizen gathering in Anywhere USA that forbids Christians to speak if they mention sin, death, and hell.

Essentially, it’s forbidding free exercise. Christians are under the Great Commission which makes their speaking part of their religious practice.

They think they can slide this past low info eyes by calling it an Arab Festival, pretending there aren’t Arab Christians. (Although the Lord knows that the American liberals are trying their best to have Arab Christians get killed off.)


7 posted on 09/01/2014 10:12:17 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Great ruling!

I intend to throw rocks at all the groups that offend me.

Then, I will ask the police to threaten the groups to leave or be arrested.

Only in America.


8 posted on 09/01/2014 10:15:02 AM PDT by Oak Grove (H)
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To: xzins

Judges like this need to be removed from the bench. Islam doesn’t belong in America or any other western nation.


9 posted on 09/01/2014 10:20:31 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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Arabs can’t be Christian?


10 posted on 09/01/2014 10:23:00 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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They think they can slide this past low info eyes by calling it an Arab Festival, pretending there aren’t Arab Christians.

Arab Christians outnumber muslims in the greater Detroit area by at least 3 to 1.
11 posted on 09/01/2014 10:24:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: xzins

I get it. It’s sick and patently unconstitutional.


12 posted on 09/01/2014 10:34:53 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: cripplecreek

I desperately want the source of that data. I have a friend who is very involved in Muslim outreach and I would like to share that with him.


13 posted on 09/01/2014 10:40:58 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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Although robustly guarded by the First Amendment, religious conduct remains subject to regulation for the protection of society,"

I guess these justices fail to see the contradiction in this assertion...

14 posted on 09/01/2014 10:44:41 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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“...religious conduct remains subject to regulation for the protection of society.”

This is chilling. Think about this. The judge, effectively, gave the state new power that completely skirts around the Constitution. As with any free speech issue, “who is to say what is ‘protection of society’”. This is in the face of free exercise of religion. Dhimmitude at work. Expressing an opinion is now illegal if it “upsets” the other side and they become violent. Punish the civilized, reward the barbarians! Of course this will only apply to Christians.

What is most alarming is the shear lack of wisdom these judges seem to have. Or maybe this guy has some connection to the current administration (?).


15 posted on 09/01/2014 10:49:52 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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Sounds as though these Arab Christians should stop paying their taxes.


16 posted on 09/01/2014 10:58:57 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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I’m not going to do the searching now because I’m dropping offline for a bit but I will say that its a tricky search because Arab Christians are spread among several groups. Primarily Chaldeans with Maronnites, Assyrians, Copts and probably a couple of other groups.

They certainly show up in far greater numbers than muslims when it comes to public events.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3195897/posts?page=110#110


17 posted on 09/01/2014 10:59:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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Stare Decisis anyone?

National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43 (1977) (also known as Smith v. Collin; sometimes referred to as the Skokie Affair), was a United States Supreme Court case dealing with freedom of assembly.


18 posted on 09/01/2014 11:02:15 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Oak Grove

Let me know when, and I’ll mail you some rocks!


19 posted on 09/01/2014 11:30:58 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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What do you expect? This country’s official policy is to kiss jihadi a$$ and let them do whatever they want and to harass normal people who complain.


20 posted on 09/01/2014 12:14:53 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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